Michele McPhee: Possible FBI Coverup of Saudi Terrorists in California

Good evening and welcome to Game Theory Today. I’m Eric Garland. We’ve got a great show tonight. There’s a lot going on. Uh America and uh about eight other countries. The list is growing at all times. At war with Iran, so the Middle Eastern situation is uh way up in the air. What a great time to dig into the attacks of September 11th, 2001. There’s enough going on. I probably wouldn’t have gotten into this um uh into this topic. Uh but for a an astonishing new article uh in LA magazine right now by the esteemed crime writer and investigator Michelle MCI, a proud daughter of Boston and current resident of Los Angeles, uh who’s digging into um the events of September 11th and how they relate to what went on in Southern California at that time.

And that’s something I I have done investigation into as well. And as soon as I was done, promptly uh stopped and paused and , 4 secondswaited for history to to catch up. But uh Michelle is a longtime uh investigative journalist, an expert in , 12 secondscriminal investigations and other things. We’re going to bring her up and we’re going to have a a rollicking good time here. Let’s bring her on. Michelle, how are you there? , 23 secondsHow are you? It’s good to see you, Eric. , 25 secondsWe’re going to conduct this entirely in a in a series of New England accents since you challenged whether or not I was really from the New England area. , 32 secondsAnd I’m, you know, I take that as a challenge.

, 36 secondsWell, you proved yourself. You pro when you said when you told me how you ordered a large coffee and a garlic bagel. I’m like, “All right, kid. You’re it.” , 43 secondsAll righty. You are You are not just from Boston. You are from Easty. Correct. , 50 secondsEast Boston. East Boston. , 53 secondsand exhausted. , 55 secondsAnd you write books about all kinds of stuff. You’ve written what, five, six, seven books somewhere in there. , 3 secondsSeven books. Yep. Um, usually long form investigative pieces like the kind that you’re prone to dig into where you pull , 10 secondsa thread and everything starts to disentangle and you just can’t stop until you have the answers. And as we both know, we have many sleepless nights because of these sorts of stories.

, 20 secondsOkay. Now, now my my listeners are going to love this that I have someone to to be with to talk about this kind of , 28 secondsstuff. So, you’ve written about the Sarna of brothers, right? , 32 secondsCorrect. Yep. Who I I think my book proves that the older brother was working as an asset for certain federal entities. you know, they they threw him , 40 secondsover in Cheschna and he was recording um family members and he helped uh counterterrorism officials in Dagistan , 49 secondstrack and kill some very high level terror targets during his trip to Russia. When he came back to Boston, all of a sudden he’s on the fast track to , 58 secondscitizenship that he was not eligible for in any way because he was Hold on.

Which which country is federal? , 3 secondsBecause there’s federal entities in Australia. , 7 secondsSee there? While I believe he had some fairly serious ties to the Boston FBI field office, but more importantly to , 14 secondsthe CIA through his uncle’s father-in-law, a guy named Graham Fuller, who I’m sure you, given your work, is familiar with. , 24 secondsOkay. So, you’ve tied the Boston Marathon bombing to the CIA. Any other anything else you dug into just out of curiosity? , 33 secondsWell, of course, we have some Armenian mobsters who teamed up with a polygamous cult in Utah known as the Kingston Clan, , 40 secondswho by the way were laundering their money through Turkey with a CIA asset named Baron Corkmods, handled by Ram Fuller.

, 50 secondsOkay. So, you’ve you’ve ti you’ve tied Turkish underworld to uh a variety of , 59 secondshostile intelligence services. uh you’ve messed around with the the the Kremlin here and now as dessert, you’ve decided , 7 secondsto dig into the Saudi role in September 11th. , 13 secondsWell, you know, I think this is a case I can never let go of because on that terrible morning, I was at ground zero. , 19 secondsYou know, I woke up that day and I had a great front page story. I was the police bureau chief of the Daily News and we worked out of one police plaza which was , 27 secondsvery close to the World Trade Center Towers. , 29 secondsGot it. I was all excited about my front page. Black Panther capture.

There was a great story about a guy, Patrick Kitten, who had hijacked a couple of planes and , 38 secondslanded in Cuba and was on the lamb all over the world in Tunisia and they finally captured him with the great work of the NYPD. And this was like like a , 47 secondsstellar NYPD investigation. I’ve been working on it for months. It was one of those deals where once in a while the cops say, “Hey, can you settle down on the story for a minute? Give us some , 55 secondsbreathing room to find the guy and then we’ll give you the exclusive.” which they actually followed through with when I did just that. So on September 10th, , 4 secondswe ne we got them. We splashed the story as they call they say in the business.

, 8 secondsIt was the front page of the New York on the morning of September 11th. And I will never forget it burning and blowing , 16 secondsall over lower Manhattan as those towers came down. And I lost like many of us many many friends that terrible morning. , 24 secondsgot um 343 firefighters, 23 New York City cops, 37 Port Authority police officers, a retired FBI agent that we’re , 33 secondsall familiar with. There were a lot of people we knew in our world. , 36 secondsAnd you were in the you were the head of the police beat for the Daily News. , 40 secondsYes, I was. So, you know, our instinct is to run towards the towers obviously like but that’s where I was going and I got grabbed physically by a police chief , 49 secondsthat I knew pretty well, Tom Fehee.

And Tom Fehee said, “You’re not going that way. You’re going this way.” And the people who followed Tom Fehee lived. And , 59 secondsthe people in the command center where we were all trying to get to did not. , 2 secondsSo, you know, I I 911 was a very crucial time in my life. I spent five years covering the ugly aftermath. I did my , 11 secondsbest to try to um profile the heroes that we lost that day. the and to this day, as you can see, I’m friends with , 19 secondsmany of the people that I wrote about almost 25 years ago, if you can believe. , 22 seconds25 years ago. It’s astonishing to think that it’s been that long. , 28 secondsAnd yet there is a bunch to still uncover and yet we’re still being lied to.

And and you know, people who I believe and I think many people believe are tied in. , 39 secondsIt’s the evidence is overwhelming. the ties to the Saudi government and to the , 46 secondshijackers who first arrived. The first two guys came to Southern California and they came here for a reason. We now know , 54 secondsafter 25 years of of stonewalling from our own justice department, the 911 , 2 secondsfamilies are finally getting some answers. And as you know, because you were the first person to pull up this thread when the uh reports were , 11 secondsdeclassified, a lot of this information the first the the first to go at it in , 18 secondsthe unclassified space on Twitter in the way that I did.

And nobody I don’t think that there was nobody in major media , 25 secondsthat followed up on that. But there’s been very few. It’s shocking how little people are writing about 911, you , 33 secondsknow, where uh Especially when you know that you know Khik Muhammad who has now , 40 secondsfinally cooperated like he is confirming a lot of the information that these 9/11 families have been pursuing in a lawsuit , 48 secondsthat we both know as Ashton versus uh the Saudi royal family. And it’s it’s f. , 55 secondsSo I’ll let you undig it because you were the first person to kind of go through these declassified files. And it was unbelievable how much information is , 3 secondsin them. And that wasn’t even anything yet because Okay, so my for the the viewers out there, I I wrote a thread in , 11 secondsSeptember of 2021.

within hours if not minutes of when the Biden administration declassified on September 11th, 2021, , 21 secondsthey put out uh a bunch of redacted still. There’s redactions in there. , 27 secondsum they declassified uh quite a few FBI 302 reports and I think intelligence , 35 secondsanalyst reports um that detailed in particular , 41 secondsthe role of Saudi agents and the Saudi government itself , 50 secondsthrough its consulate in Los Angeles, California and activities around the King Farhad , 57 secondsmosque where George HW Bush’s old chief of staff, John Cenounu, was on site when they christened it, I believe. Maybe , 5 secondschristened is probably the wrong verb, but dedicated it. He was there at the opening ceremony.

, 12 secondsUm or sorry, I maybe it was Chrisu, uh Johnson’s son, I think. Anyway, um you , 19 secondsknow, interesting, you know, Bush family connections going on there. um that that , 25 secondsinformation was declassified and I said, well, one, this is being declassified on September 11th , 33 secondsum on the 20th anniversary of the attacks. So, it seemed quite symbolic and there’s a lot of stuff from the Biden administration that they didn’t , 41 secondsfollow through on. Maybe a second Biden administration would have followed through on on that if there had been , 48 secondscontinuity. Sometimes happens. It’s one of the the advantages of having a second administration as a president. Um, but , 57 secondseither way, this stuff was revealed and I, you know, I did a Twitter thread, uh, which I think I think got in the , 4 secondsthousands of of views.

It was not major media. But then again, the major the media corporations , 12 secondshave been roundly hostile to me um on very nasty and personal level since I , 19 secondscame out and and revealed the influence of hostile foreign intelligence in the 2016 election. That’s when I went from , 26 secondsbeing an author for the Atlantic to being a butt of jokes from the Atlantic. , 32 secondsIsn’t that interesting? You’re you’re you’re a writer. Like if you’re if you’re an author at at a media outlet and all a sudden they start writing hit , 40 secondspieces on you without even calling you for a quote. That’s kind of you know and that’s why we need independent , 47 secondsmedia. I’m a firm believer in independent media for this very reason.

, 51 secondsYou know I think that this story all around has been ignored and and at this point now I think we can agree this is , 58 secondsnot crazy ranting Reddit threads. This is a welldocumented court case that is filled with public discovery that any , 7 secondshuman being can go into pacer and read what we are talking about. This is not nutso conspiracy theory. , 14 secondsConspiracy theory discovery. This is discovery in a case in a landmark civil suit. this any so let’s catch everybody up that there , 22 secondsis a there is a civil tort lawsuit from at least one family um who was , 30 secondsmany families I believe okay it’s a it’s a it’s a um it’s a multipliff um lawsuit there are families , 38 secondsin the United States who were grieved by the loss of the companionship um and the relationship of their family , 46 secondsmembers who died that day and they are seeking seeking um they are seeking to , 53 secondsbe made whole to recover losses from the Saudi government.

Right. Correct. Yep. And and you know this is a landmark case that could reach trillions of dollars. And what the 911 justice , 8 secondsfamilies argue is look it there is a clear nexus of the funding of these hijackers when they first arrived. And , 16 secondsthe first two, as we know, showed up right here in Los Angeles. They landed at LAX and and really, if you go back , 24 secondsthrough the history, and it’s well documented now, none of this is in dispute. These guys had just gone to an al-Qaeda summit in Malaysia. They were , 33 secondswith the leaders of al-Qaeda, including Cleik Muhammad. These guys were little mini celebrities because they had , 40 secondsalready been fighting on behalf of the Mujaheden for years.

They had been in Bosnia. They had been in other parts of , 48 secondsthe Middle East fighting on behalf of al-Qaeda, but whatever formation of al al-Qaeda it was before Osama bin Laden , 56 secondshad taken over. They had pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden in Bosnia while fighting alongside the Taliban. , 3 secondsAnd so this is 1990s the the the you have the decade of the ‘9s, you have the fall of the Soviet Union. And you also, you , 12 secondsknow, this connects to the period that a lot of people know as Charlie Wilson’s war, um, where you you had the Soviets invade Afghanistan. , 22 secondsAnd in a phenomenally successful operation, the CIA funds its largest , 30 secondscovert operation, bringing war to the USSR in Afghanistan through a proxy.

And , 38 secondsthat proxy was the mu mujahedin who eventually they became the Taliban. But at that , 46 secondstime they were um they were ready to fight against the abuses of the Soviets and were righteous in doing so. They , 55 secondswere very religious. They were very tribal amongst themselves. These are, you know, a Afghan tribes where, you , 2 secondsknow, the Afghanis are, uh, known, I believe the country is nicknamed in some areas, um, the graveyard of empires , 10 secondsbecause nobody’s held the place successfully since Alexander the Great. , 14 secondsAnd that’s a clue [laughter] that that’s that’s interesting. I’d never heard that term, but that’s interesting. , 20 secondsAnd no, you know, Alexander the Great subdued the place, and he was the last one to do so successfully.

everybody else leaves the way the Soviets did and , 29 secondsthen we did. Um, so the 1990s come up and I I started in the world of intelligence in the 1990s , 37 secondsand I was in Washington DC for 911 and I was an analyst in DC when the Taliban started blowing up Buddha statutes. , 50 secondsUh, and people were looking at the the blasphemy of that and sort of the anti- civilization angle to these cats. And I knew a lot of guys who were cold warriors, you know, people that had trained in the Russian language, who really knew what the Soviets got up to. , 9 secondsAnd there was this this false sense of security during the Clinton administration that dovetailed into the , 18 secondsGeorge W.

Bush administration of well it’s it’s over here we’re we’re done and um we won and sure there you know the , 27 secondsthe dot era um there was a lot of money to be made there it was easy money there was uh you know it was a sunny time in , 36 secondsthe United States we had we seemed to have won ideologically and the things that we had innovated throughout the , 42 seconds20th century like business techniques uh like gap accounting or um you know general corporate , 52 secondsmarketing practices. These are things that we started exporting around the world and people were the executives were very excited to export it to China and Russia our supposedly former ideologically or ideological enemies , 7 secondsadversaries at the very least in China’s case enemies in Russia’s and that we were going to no longer we weren’t going to compete against them with nukes or , 15 secondsthe space race we were going to do it by teaching them how to do corporate marketing this being the 1990s um but I knew a lot of the the Cold War types who , 24 secondswere a couple things.

They’re they’re they were there to say, “Do not take your eyes off the Russians. They are not done. You don’t know them like I do.” , 33 secondsAnd they seemed kind of uh unreasonable, but in a very reasonable way. Like they they much had they seen, much had they , 40 secondsdone in the area around uh Mlan, Virginia, Langley, Virginia area. Um they’re like, “We are not done people.” , 49 secondsUm, and clearly that was the same attitude of the mujahedin. They were hardly done. , 54 secondsThey were just getting started in late 1990, early 2000, which is where this Malaysia summit was. We have these two , 2 secondshijackers, the ones that ended up taking down the Pentagon. They landed at LAX on January 15th, day 2000, days before they , 10 secondswere photographed in Malaysia with these with exactly who you’re talking about.

, 15 secondsThese people who’ve been fighting for a long time, initially against Russia, then they were in Bosnia, then they they’ve been all over the world. These , 22 secondsare seasoned warriors who were just picked for the biggest, most outrageous plot that Osama bin Laden could come up , 30 secondswith. He called it Operation Holy Tuesday. Khaled Shake Muhammad called it the plains operation. And these two , 37 secondsyoung Saudis who were rich kids, these were two little rich kids from prominent families in Mecca. both of them, you , 45 secondsknow, wealthy kids from good families in Mecca and they were determined to take down America and they and the that plan , 54 secondsstarted the minute they landed at LAX and were d picked up by an Eratrian who , 1 secondwas a congregant at the King Fahad mosque which an FBI agent put in a declaration saying the entire mosque was , 8 secondspaid for by King Fad, his namesake.

You know, immediately at that time when they landed, the Saudis had put in this very radical imam, Fahad Alumi. , 22 secondsThis guy was somebody who was screaming death to America all day long. He had tons of like if you are an infidel, you should die uh literature from that was , 31 secondsprinted up by the Saudis and put all over that mosque. So the idea that the first place that these two hijackers went was to be picked up by a congregant , 39 secondsfrom the mosque, driven directly to the mosque, and this is how they got their start in California. The mosque was the , 46 secondsone that hooked them up with the playing lessons, with their licenses, with their shipbox car they parked at Dallasos airport.

Everything that they did, their , 54 secondsroots in what took place on Tuesday, September 11th, happened right here in , 1 secondCalifornia in a very fancy little suburban place called Culver City. This mosque takes up a whole block. And every , 10 secondstime I drive by this mosque now, I’m like, I cannot believe this that there is proof now that this plot was funded. , 19 secondsI mean, look, it was put it was launched into place by very high ranking people. , 22 secondsIt would be the same as if we went to Saudi Arabia and you had George W. Bush and Dick Cheney set up a church and all , 30 secondsof a sudden there’s all kinds of American terrorists that are working out of this church. We would have a problem with that, I think, as Americans.

, 37 secondsNow, you are extremely knowledgeable in how the government works and how law enforcement works. Um, you know, I get the sense you have an an idea of how , 46 secondscounter intelligence works. Generally, spy. , 49 secondsI mean, generally, very generally, not like you do. Yep. , 53 secondsAre you familiar with how the Chinese and the Saudis would handle somebody else from another country coming in with a different church at all? Let’s not , 2 secondseven get to where what else they’re going to say. , 5 secondsDo you think that would raise some hackles? , 8 secondsI I think it might, but here it was celebrated as you mentioned. You know, here we don’t only have the church. , 14 secondsWe had these guys coming in going, “Oh, and we hate you.” And you should die.

If you are a , 21 secondsChristian or a Jew, you should die. You should die. It literally is printed in in propaganda in the church. It would be like you go to, you know, Sunday mass on , 30 secondsHandover Street and my favorite church, St. Leonard, and I pick up a brochure that says, “Everyone who’s not Catholic should die.” I would be alarmed by that, but nobody apparently was. , 40 secondsAnd nobody apparently was. Um these guys were absolutely like yes you should all die and we have religious freedom in the , 47 secondsUnited States which is great which is we are both from the New England area. Uh you know uh my my family helped chart , 55 secondsthe area that they landed Plymouth you know uh where they landed the pilgrims on.

I’m pre-madeflower which I would I never get invited , 3 secondsto Mayflower. Yeah, Peter Peter Garland was pre-made flower, which I would if I ever got invited to any place in Backbay, Boston. I would , 11 secondstotally lord lord over those people, but never gets brought up. [laughter] But we, you know, we instituted uh, you know, religious freedom so that we could , 19 secondsbe nuts and we could have our nutty uh, religious beliefs away from the more mainstream ones in England and the , 26 secondsNetherlands and whatnot. But but this went well beyond that. Well beyond that, well beyond that. But These guys show up , 35 secondsin LA and they’re like, “What the actual hell?” Can you imagine?

These are guys who’ve been fighting for the Mujahedin in in the most, you know, war torn , 43 secondsregions of the world and suddenly they show up and and and by the way, they’re also into Wahhabiism. So, these are not people who are used to women walking , 50 secondsaround scantily clad. They are certainly not used to, you know, Los Angeles culture. They’re completely out of place. They don’t know what to do. And , 58 secondsthe imam says, “Guess what? I have a guy that can help you out. He just happens to be a Saudi intelligence officer, but he also has a much friendlier area for , 7 secondsyou guys that you might fit in a little bit more. There’s another mosque also funded by the Saudis where the American , 15 secondsal-Qaeda, the very famous one that was taken out by a drone strike, used to attend.

So now we have a we have and where was that? Just so we know. So , 22 secondsyou have calip. So Culver City, these guys get their start. They hang out at the King Fahad mosque. Just for the , 29 secondspeople that are not from Los Angeles, Culver City is a suburb of Los Angeles, right? , 34 secondsIt’s not really a suburb. You know, Los Angeles is such a sprawl. It’s giant sprawl. So people It’s an My point is it’s in LA, but there’s another one in San Die. , 43 secondsIt’s an LA nice neighborhood. Yes. So LA and then two hours away is San Diego and that’s where they end up and this and , 50 secondsthey end up initially in the care of we now know is a Saudi intelligence agent. , 58 secondsHis name is Omar Albayami.

He too have been sent to Southern California according to this lawsuit and the , 5 secondsdiscovery that has recently become declassified to set up a cell. And they called them I mean the Saudis have a word. They call it propagandists. Like , 14 secondsthese are guys who are here specifically to spread radical. That’s their job. , 19 secondsThey’re here like it’s their job and they do get paid for it. That is their job. , 24 secondsSo I want to spook explain this. Um please. Now, now Spook’s playing for us. , 29 secondsThe the you know speak as I call it. Give us the the Fed speak. , 33 secondsThere’s a really bright line between being a jerk with an opinion and being the representative of a country.

So when , 42 secondswe look at like Russian propaganda, there’s a lot of people running around with Russian talking points in our elections at any given time. And they , 51 secondsmeet a number of criteria. the the most benign of which is useful idiot which is a translation from the Russian that I , 58 secondsbelieve Stalin came up with to say somebody that is dumb and naturally goes along because they agree because we’ve , 6 secondscrafted this talking point that will be very divisive um we’ve we have crafted in such a way that I’m don’t have to pay , 14 secondsyou to go repeat it you’ll repeat it because you like it you you find it uh you find it attract attractive. So if I , 24 secondssay, well, all you know, the American government’s illegitimate because um the Indians never seated their land and therefore anything that happens in the United States is illegal by definition.

, 34 secondsThat’s a very Russian talking point. , 36 secondsVery radical. Uh you hear it a lot these days. There’s some people pushing this whole unse I heard something in Vermont here. Uh we’re on unseated Abenaki land. , 46 secondsWell, didn’t Billy Isish just get jammed up for saying that, you know, nothing is and she’s sitting in this like gazillion dollar mansion in Malibu on Indian land on native. , 56 secondsThat’s right. , 57 secondsThat’s right. Hey, we can So, are you talking about your piece of property? Right. So, that is classic Russian agit prop um where somebody might grab onto , 7 secondsit and go repeat it because it kind of makes sense to them. I’m like, “Yeah, it’s too there were people here before me and they got a rough deal.” And I , 15 secondsthink of myself as a good, high-minded person.

I want to be fair to people. So, part of my selfimage is I try to solve , 25 secondsinjustice. Um, and of course, I’ve been fed a talking point where I don’t actually have to go at real injustice, , 32 secondsuh, income inequality or lack of due process for my fellow neighbor or whatever. I can latch on to something , 39 secondsthat is totally abstract. Like 400 years ago there were Native Americans on this land and they’re not here anymore. I can , 46 secondslatch on to that. I can I can virtue signal and without any consequence to me. So I love it and I don’t even know , 54 secondswhy I love it because I could it would never occur to me that somebody crafted this so that I would spread it and jam up all these political discussions.

, 3 secondslike, okay, yeah, it’s unseated Wabanaki land or whatever, but we have to fill the potholes. So, what’s the budget this this quarter? Yeah. , 11 secondsSo, that’s very Russian, and you can be a a useful idiot. If you just hear this and you repeat it, you’re not on task. , 19 secondsThat’s a a Fed term would be, yeah, but by task. This guy was being paid directly by the princess. , 27 secondsOh, yeah. I’m going So, you’ve skipped ahead five five layers there. There’s a So then there’s, you know, agents who have been recruited up who are going to , 35 secondstake, you know, they’ll do little favors for this, you know, this intelligence officer, but they’re not an intelligence officer.

This dude is an intelligence , 43 secondsofficer who gets his paycheck from the Saudi government and he set up 9/11. And when I read that stuff in the FBI , 51 secondsreports that they declassified, I went, “So the Saudis did it.” Now, they probably had help from the Russians. , 56 secondsThere were some Israelis on site who were entirely too happy to watch those towers come down at the exact minute they came down. So maybe they were , 5 secondsinvolved too. Um but and the Egyptians were there was a couple Egyptians rolling around here and it was a it was , 14 secondsa an international jihadist plot maybe among others. But one thing’s for damn certain based on Abayumi’s behavior, he , 24 secondswas an agent of that government and we continued our relationship with that government after 9/11.

We in fact we acted like they were allies. , 34 secondsYes. What’s that? , 35 secondsWill you continue our relationship with him? What people don’t realize is that the um Southern District in California filed a an indictment. So after 911 at , 44 secondslike many many many Saudis he just happened to decide to take a long trip to England right before 911 and so he , 52 secondshad moved from San Diego to country England. So he moved to the UK. So he had moved to the UK. , 1 secondYou mean a country that has the intelligence service that gave birth more or less to the trade craft of ours? , 8 secondsBecause the CIA is really kind of a stepchild of MI6 and MI5. , 15 secondsI don’t know. So that’s where these guys I know that’s where he ended up.

And I know that um the imam from the King Fihad mosque decided to go take a vacation in Saudi Arabia in 2020 2001. , 29 secondsWe know that the bin Ladens were allowed to fly out of the US before and after 9/11 on private chartered plats. We know , 37 secondsthat there was a lot of shenanigans around the Saudis. And we know that this guy within days was named as a suspect , 46 secondsbecause of his his affiliation with the hijackers. They get the hijackers’s ID. , 51 secondsThey do a background check on him. Any reporter would have done this. They come up with an address in San Diego and they find out that the Saudi spy paid their , 57 secondsrent. They found out that the Saudi spy helped them buy a car.

They found out that the Saudi spy helped them enroll in , 4 secondsin uh airplane flying lessons. So clearly this guy was involved. And when you say spy, when you say spy, , 12 secondsspy, you mean somebody who works for the government. So which means he has a boss high up in in the Saudi government who , 21 secondsdirected that intelligence officer to engage in a conspiracy to bomb the United States, thus to buy flight , 29 secondslessons, to pay for apartments, to obfuscate, to run, to destroy evidence, whatever. Spy stuff, classic spy stuff. , 37 secondsBut what we very rarely have in these circumstances, all of these things are blinded behind eight different layers. , 45 secondsThat’s how you do it.

Because otherwise you’ll get caught. Because if you know what normally happens, and I think this is what you’re on about. Normally what , 53 secondshappens is if we tie that to your government, we’ll nuke you in the face because that is an assault on the United States. So basically 25 years ago, the Saudi government attacked the United States of America in , 9 secondsand pulled off the most successful assault on this country since Pearl Harbor and nobody declared war on them , 17 secondsand pretty much we knew of they covered it up which is the worst part which brings us to our story , 23 secondsbecause the FBI indicted this guy in California. There was an indictment because he lied on his immigration , 30 secondspaperwork.

We know we had a no-show job at a Saudi owned company as an accountant. And how do we know that? , 36 secondsBecause the 911 families proved it in this lawsuit. The direct quote in my story from the federal judge overseeing , 44 secondsthis lawsuit in New York City’s southern district is number one, we need to know what the hell were they doing in LA, and I’m obviously paraphrasing. Number two, , 53 secondsif you expect us to believe as Americans that this guy was an accountant at this no-show job at a Saudi civil, you know, , 2 secondsum, aviation company, it it it stretches credibility that he would just happen to pay the bills for these Saudi hijackers. , 10 secondsIt’s ridiculous. So right now where it stands is at the very least hopefully we are going to hear this discovery in open , 18 secondscourt thanks to the great lawyers who have fought when I say tooth and nail , 25 secondstooth and nail against our own justice department to find this evidence and that’s part of it that I think people should find enraging.

It’s enraging. , 34 secondsWhen I wrote my Boston Marathon book, you know, I was apoplelectic that Congress issued subpoenas to the FBI to , 43 secondsask questions about about the FBI’s relationship to Tamillins and I, the older dead brother. They didn’t show up. , 50 secondsThe FBI can get away with just ignoring a congressional subpoena. And this is a matter of public record. Go back and look at C-SPAN. When you have Mike , 57 secondsMcCall, who people would argue is a right-wing nut from Texas, and you have Bill Keading, who’s a very progressive liberal from Massachusetts, and the two , 5 secondsof them are on the same page screaming and yelling about the FBI blowing them off. And the FBI, in the words of , 13 secondsMichael McCall, this information does not belong to the FBI.

It belongs to the American people. In the words of Bill Keading, Bill Keading, if you recall, , 21 secondsand many other lawmakers went to Russia, was Stephen Seagal, the actor, where they came back from that trip saying , 29 secondsthey got more information from the FSB about the Boston Marathon bombers than they got from their own FBI. That’s a startling statement when you given the , 38 secondscurrent political climate. And that wasn’t that long ago. It was 2013. right now going going to play footsie with the FSB is an interesting political choice. , 49 secondsUm, speaking of, you know, getting But when the NBA blows you off and lies about their circumstances and their relationship with the Boston Marathon bombing, it is abs It seems absurd.

, 58 secondsYou’re going to Dagistan with Steven Seagal. Come on. Like right there, it’s like this is this is this a a comedy? It , 7 secondssounds like something you would read in the Onion, but it was reality because the FBI blew off Congress. That should not be allowed. The FBI blew off these families. That should not be allowed. , 17 secondsThe FBI literally hid this information that we’re talking about with this Saudi intelligence officer, Wyoming. They , 24 secondsburied an indictment. That indictment got sealed and buried until it was unsealed in July of 2024. Why? Why did , 32 secondsthey let this guy work? We’re not the only ones asking the Parliament. And this is how I got on to the story.

The UK Parliament is like, “This is an , 40 secondsoutrage that the FBI burned Scotland Yard in the way that they did.” And I’ll let you explain it because this is your world. How how significant do you see , 48 secondsthat when you see the UK Parliament censor the FBI for lying to its , 56 secondsinvestigators? This is akin to the United States Congress saying Scotland Yard screwed them over publicly and demanding answers. , 5 secondsSo, let’s see if I can get this on on stage here. So, it was 8 8 September 2025. , 13 secondsUm, the the British Parliament started talking smack about the FBI. , 22 secondsUm, even though, you know, I I have a few questions for him here. um where you , 30 secondsknow they have you know they have really good intelligence and law enforcement as well better than ours in a lot of cases.

, 38 secondsThey they have a lot of intel about uh the Saudis, right? Um you know I haven’t read this from from , 46 secondsParliament yet. I I forget exactly what their their angle was. You’re saying that they were saying that the FBI was being obstructive. Correct. , 54 secondsCorrect. So, so the FBI as they they picked up Baomi in um Birmingham, England, they were questioning him as , 2 secondsthe FBI executed a search warrant at his house. What was not shared with Scotland Yard and those investigators was what , 11 secondswas found. There’s a trove of evidence directly linking this Saudi spy to the , 18 secondsattack on 911, including a welcome dinner he had with the hijackers after he paid their rent.

the very same day that he put up the 10 grand to get them , 27 secondsinto the apartment because they don’t have an ID, they don’t have a job, they don’t have anything. And the spy put up the, you know, cosign their lease, then , 34 secondsthat day he has a welcome dinner for them with some Saudi officials and the imam from the San Diego mosque that same , 41 secondsnight. There’s a video of it, which obviously he needed to send back to his bosses. See, I’m taking care of the hijackers. , 49 secondsOkay. So, in counter intelligence, you may be dealing with somebody who is a second generation sleeper. Their their , 56 secondsfamily may have come over here from Russia in the 40s or the 60s or whatever and they have been raised a certain way , 4 secondsto do certain things.

Uh but then they go on to train some other people who go on and take these actions. So, when you’re you’re in counter intelligence, , 12 secondsyou’re going to look at what this person’s doing and you’re going to try and figure out what their what their goal is. you attribute their actions , 19 secondsmaybe to the uh the initiatives of some foreign power to see is this the Chinese trying to get one over on us? Is this , 28 secondsRussian or is it something else or is this person gone rogue? It these things can be really super subtle. This is not , 36 secondsreally super subtle. This is a Saudi guy who worked for the government who paid for this. Like this information is as , 44 secondseasy to acquire and analyze as it gets.

, 50 secondsWe know the nationality. We know who. We know what they did and we know why they , 56 secondsdid it. And they blew up New York and they blew up the Pentagon. So why is it , 3 secondstaking us 25 years? it this this guy had a sketch which had a very , 11 secondscomplicated mathematical equation because he was an aviation guy that showed the don’t ask me I don’t want to be misqued but it was but , 19 secondsexperts say they took a look at the sketch and said this is this guy calculating how fast the flight 77 has , 27 secondsto be flying to hit the Pentagon at the exact right speed at the exact right time. So these calculations were very clearly linked to ex it literally said , 36 seconds77 on it.

Flight 77 which was the hijack flight that these knuckleheads took from , 43 secondsDallas. And don’t even get me started on the on the intelligence failures that took place. Not only did the Malaysians send us video of these two hijackers , 52 secondssaying, “Hey, these guys were being treated like celebrities at the al-Qaeda meeting spot where they had like, you know, uh it was like a resort. They had , 1 seconda a vacation, al-Qaeda vacation, where they plotted 911, right? And then these guys are sent to Southern California. , 8 secondsThey’re taking lessons. They’re so dumb they can’t pass the lessons. So they they do not become they do not become pilots. They become what they call muscle hijackers.

These are the guys , 16 secondsthat pulls out the box cutters. And we know the box cutter guys. , 20 secondsYep. Uh we know that on Flight 77 it was just happened to be piloted by a very wellrespected, highly decorated Air , 28 secondsForce captain who struggled with the hijackers for control of the flight and and very likely died in the cockpit , 35 secondsbefore it hurled into the Pentagon. Uh at least that’s the story his wife was told by Air Force officials. But in the , 42 secondsend, you know, they had these they had intel on these guys. They didn’t kill their visas. So right away we had problems. But on the morning of , 51 secondsSeptember 11th, there’s two brothers, two hijacker brothers.

There’s the pilot and there’s two other idiots. The two , 58 secondsbrothers, one of them didn’t have a photo ID. A customer service rep said, “Hey, uh, this guy, we should probably , 6 secondstake a second. Look, he doesn’t have an ID.” They let him through at the train at the screening, which was of course obviously not TSA at the time, but they , 14 secondswere screening. They set off the metal detectors because obviously they had box cutters on them. They were also wanded and waved through. There was so many , 21 secondsopportunities to stop these guys that you have to wonder like what is the FBI’s endgame by not sharing this information about El Bomi? That’s what’s , 31 secondsthat’s your world.

Like why would they stonewall it is a good question. , 37 secondsSo I’m I’m going to throw up a paragraph here from the um from the thing from UK Parliament which was September of last , 46 secondsyear. So this is David This is this is recent. This is like was this is new information. Everything about Biomi that , 53 secondswe’re talking about, no one knew until like six months months ago. Exactly. , 59 secondsYesterday’s edition of the Sunday Times revealed that in the aftermath of the 9/11 of 9/11, the Metropolitan Police were forced to release Omar Al-Bay, who , 8 secondsis believed to be a Saudi intelligence agent accused of supporting the hijackers because because the FBI , 15 secondswithheld evidence that is explosive already.

, 19 secondsThat’s a very strong statement from members of the legislature in England, does it not? Or am I misreading this? , 26 secondsThis feels like it’s a pretty strong statement. , 28 secondsPunching uh America’s number one most important law enforcement agency in the face is a big deal for our uh our allies. Yes. , 39 secondsAnd then by the way, Richard Blumenthal and John Cornin, I love a bipartisan matchup, right? Both of them are now demanding answers from Cash Patel who’s , 48 secondsbeen blowing them off. So there’s a letter from Blumenthal and Cornin from the Senate Intelligence Committee. Like what the hell? But how did they find , 56 secondsout? They found out from Parliament, not from the FBI.

And the FBI has steadfastly blown them off, too. , 2 secondsSo I want to read through this and some people listen to this podcast. So uh just for the rest of this, arrested in Birmingham 10 days after 9/11, Albayumi , 11 secondswas taken to London to be interrogated by Met counterterror officers. The FBI declined to provide those officers with , 19 secondsvital evidence of Albaumi’s involvement in 9/11. The evidence included a hand-drawn aircraft diagram, trajectory , 27 secondscalculations matching the Pentagon attack, as you said, and an address book with the attacker’s code name, a code name that Bin Laden himself did not , 36 secondsdisclose until a year later. The FBI’s refusal to disclose this evidence prevented Al-Bay’s extradition to the United States.

, 44 secondsFBI records show that in 1999, Albayumi met two officials from the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs. Those , 52 secondsofficials were assessed to be part of a network of individuals connected with the facilitation of two 9/11 attackers. , 58 secondsA separate 2017 assessment by the FBI’s Arabic specialist concluded that Mr. , 3 secondsAlbayi was a co-op tee of the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency, which is its Secret Service. A full , 11 secondsinvestigation by the Intelligence and Security Committee is needed. It must investigate why the FBI clearly invoed , 19 secondsextraditing Mr. Al Bayumi and exactly what the involvement was of the Saudi government in particular their Ministry of Islamic Affairs and their Secret , 27 secondsService.

As the minister said, it is nearly 25 years since 9/11. In that time, we have extradited many innocent , 34 secondspeople to America. But we failed to extradite someone who deserved to be sent over there. We need to get to the bottom of this in part so we do not see , 41 secondsthis terrible atrocity happen again. So, thumpity thump thump. That is the Brits throwing us under the bus, particularly , 51 secondsthe FBI, but of course they have secret services as well that keep track of these things , 58 secondsand they’re probably in possession of a couple of morsels of information. But but 6 months ago or so, they come out in , 7 secondsparliament and go, “Hold on, the FBI covered up 911.” I mean, that is that’s huge.

I and this is why you bring you , 16 secondssuddenly bringing this uh to everyone’s attention a few days ago. I’m like what’s this? What’s going [laughter] on here? , 26 secondsYou know um but you know and I missed this from UK Parliament. There’s so much going on these days. But six months ago, , 34 secondsall of the sudden the Brits start uh pointing a super soaker filled with cat pee at us and 911 is your fault. Like that’s real. , 45 secondsIt’s been 25 years. That’s pretty interesting, Michelle, isn’t it? , 49 secondsOh, well that’s the part I’m hoping you can explain to me because why now? Listen, the 911 was brave that , 57 secondsit happened because the because the information that we got from Scotland Yard is what provoked the federal judge in this lawsuit that the it’s it’s unfathomable , 5 secondsto me as somebody who watch who went to countless funerals for friends and wrote stories about the thousands of kids left , 14 secondsorphaned who are now adults and watched what’s going on at GMO.

If anything, the very rare things that take take place at , 21 secondsGuantanamo Bay these days when I I pay attention because I lost friends. Like the whole country should be outraged by , 28 secondsthis. There is a a glaring cover up that’s going on and who are we , 35 secondsprotecting and why why would a guy like this a nobody spy? And now I mean you find out that at the time , 43 secondswhat do you mean by that? Let’s just unpack that when you say why would they protect a nobody spy? , 48 secondsWell, okay, that’s the question. On paper, I would say he’s not nobody. He We’re talking about somebody who was a an , 56 secondsoperational uh you know, an intelligence officer uh in the most successful covert , 3 secondsoperation in espionage history.

I mean, right up there. I mean, he managed to uh , 10 secondshe he was from a country that was demonstrabably weaker in every sense, including including their secret , 18 secondsservice. They should not have the ability to overwhelm FBI counter intelligence in the CIA, especially when put together with France’s DGSSE. , 29 secondsMhm. , 30 secondsSpain’s CNI, the aforementioned MI6, as in our our partners , 37 secondsshould be all over jerks like this. And then there’s the our own CIA should know when something’s coming from overseas. , 46 secondsAnd the FBI should be Definitely, you know, if FBI counter intelligence is supposed to track , 54 secondsum, you know, covert operations, much less terrorism on our soil.

We’re , 1 secondtalking about guys, they were not in the basement of a Hallmark card shop in Topeka, Kansas, planning this. They were , 10 secondsin Los Angeles at a gigantic mosque that was funded directly by the Saudi king. , 17 secondsand they were as loud about it as possible and yet they were allowed to run around. Nobody caught this. You , 25 secondsknow, they got driver’s licenses. They got, you know, they went to pilot school. , 30 secondsThey took English classes. But worse, the two hijackers lived with a longtime paid FBI informant cenamed Muppet. , 40 secondsWait, what? , 42 secondsThey they That’s right. I I read I read your story. They lived with a fed. , 46 secondsThey lived with a fed.

They lived with a double agent. , 50 secondsWait, like what what is happening? And then that and then that FBI agent who was the handler for Muppet is now uncooperative. And you’re like, what? , 59 secondsAnd by the way, okay, no, we’re going to No, no, we got to slow this down. We slow this down for everybody. , 5 secondsYep. Cuz my my string wall brain now is bouncing. , 9 secondsSo we got to break it down for everybody. So, you know, I cuz I I sat there in the aftermath of 9/11 and , 17 secondswatched Condisa Rice go, “Nobody imagined airplanes as weapons. I you know what I did in Washington DC? I wrote scenarios of potential future threats.” That’s what I did. , 29 secondsYou You know what people did in my business?

They wrote scenarios of people running planes into buildings. That’s , 37 secondsnot They’re It’s filled with explosive gasoline or whatever else you want. We fire missiles off of planes all the time. Why not just use the plane as a missile? Oh, wait. That’s called , 45 secondskamicazi. I mean, we The idea of using a plane as a weapon being unheard of. I’m sitting there listening and they go, “Oh, I never thought of using a plane as , 54 secondsa weapon. You’ve never seen a World War II film with the Japanese ever.” Okay. , 58 secondsSo, that was that was gaslighting. It wasn’t just stupid. It was knowingly psychologically abusive. , 6 secondsThat level of stupid of going, “Yeah, no. We just didn’t know that they’d used planes.

No one no one knew. It was a failure of imagination. , 14 secondsBut in reality, the two guys who were under the direct toutelage of a Saudi intelligence , 22 secondsofficer who was able, we know this from the declassified files, was able to walk in and out of the consulate. You know, , 29 secondsone of the the main things a country’s security service is going to do is they’re going to monitor the doors at all the embassies and consulates. You , 37 secondsknow why, Michelle? Because we don’t want our [ __ ] who work at the FBI or the Pentagon who have some form of , 46 secondscrisis or a drug problem or gambling problem or whatever. We don’t want them to be what’s known as a walk-in where they walk in the front door of an , 54 secondsembassy and go, “Hey, I got I got a copy of that report in my apartment.

You want to see?” because they do that to them. , 1 secondI mean, we do know that they had footage of Byomi going into the Saudi consulate, which just happened to be a couple of , 9 secondsblocks away from the FBI field office for Los Angeles, which a startling coincidence, but they he walked right in. , 18 secondsWe They have video of it. They were watching this guy. They were watching this guy. They knew this guy. They knew , 25 secondsthe imam. So, they had cases open on these guys. Why let him go? They indicted him. Why let him go? Why seal the indictment? That’s the part that doesn’t make sense to me. , 35 secondsSo, there’s there’s what’s known as official cover and there’s nonofficial cover.

Official cover is when you work at the embassy and but you’re really an , 44 secondsintelligence officer. Happens all the time. Um, you know, uh, you know, dirty secret, uh, many people who are, uh, , 51 secondsplaced in American embassies abroad really work for the CIA. Many other countries like Russia, basically nobody in the embassy isn’t an intelligence officer of some form, right? , 3 secondsWell, the imam had a job at the embassy. So, we know that. Yeah. , 7 secondsFahad mosque imam also had diplomatic immunity from the embassy. His embassy. , 12 secondsAnd you’re telling me it’s two blocks from the FBI field office. Correct. , 21 secondsSo to recap the recap of the recap. So you’ve got a Saudi intelligence officer who is well known by everybody to really , 30 secondsbe part of the government and meanwhile he’s setting up this terrorism and what what is it you said allegedly.

Y allegedly. Then then one of the , 38 secondsattackers gets to walk into a US airport without an ID at all. He didn’t bring his ID, but he did bring his box cutter. , 45 secondsAnd it was before the TSA, but still they didn’t just let they still had metal detectors in in 2001, right? Yep. , 53 secondsSo, he somehow gets in with a huge chunk of metal and all these guys who barely know how to fly planes who are directly under the opices of the Saudi government walk in. , 4 secondsI can I can definitely see those two hijackers. I can connect them directly. , 8 secondsGot it. And then we turned around and we attacked Afghanistan. , 14 secondsAnd then we attacked Iraq based on completely fraudulent intelligence.

And everything we learn about it, it’s more , 22 secondsand more in fraudulent than last we thought. I’ve done I’ve done videos on this channel about the now now declassified. This is now declassified. , 31 secondsYou can see what was top secret in 2001 and 2002. , 36 secondsnot everything, but the the reports from the CIA and um and component and other , 45 secondsagencies that worked with them that the the excuses they gave to say that Iraq was a threat. When you read the actual , 54 secondsdocuments, they weren’t even bothering to lie. They they it was they did not really think that Saddam Hussein had , 2 secondsweapons of mass destruction. They’ve now declassified this. They said it was a switcheroo.

They told us, “Oh, he’s got , 9 secondsweapons.” And then in their documents behind the scenes, it says he wants weapons. There’s a difference between me , 17 secondsbeing hungry at noon and wanting a ham sandwich and having a ham sandwich. Huge difference. If I have one, I can eat , 24 secondsone. If I would merely want one, I can’t eat the ham sandwich, and I would still be hungry. Materially different situations. the kind of thing that , 32 secondsintelligence analysts are paid to to discern. So we were told as the American people they have weapons. We now look at , 40 secondstheir documents and it says they he wanted weapons. That’s different than having weapons. So we so we weren’t just , 47 secondsthey didn’t just [ __ ] us.

Then they didn’t just lie to us. They lied to us , 53 secondswith a level of cynicism that is hard to calculate. , 59 secondsSo, which is why I think people have a hard time understanding this. I mean, even now, look, what’s crazy is the princess , 6 secondswho was paying this spy we’ve been talking about, biom, she was the wife of the Saudi ambassador who just happens to be all over the , 14 secondsEpstein files. So, it’s just like it’s these what a shocker. So it’s like these same , 22 secondsplayers like what you always say these these [ __ ] again it’s like the same people keep showing up in the most , 28 seconds[snorts] unlikely of places and whenever there’s something where you know the US government is trying to stonewall to me , 35 secondsI don’t know how you look I want you to slow down someone in the face and say we’re not going to help you with this lawsuit and , 44 secondshere’s why money I just don’t understand it like I don’t understand how you could be in every administration has done it.

, 51 secondsBush Obama was the worst because he actually vetoed JASTA which allowed the lawsuit to go first go forward in the , 59 secondsfirst place. And I’ll let you explain Jasta. , 2 secondsSo I I want to call you back to the the Saudi um ambassador or some form of , 11 secondsofficial. Oh, the the U the ambassador to the uh United States at that time was , 19 secondsand I know I’m mangling everybody’s name so I apologize in advance but Bill Hal right so he is the guy who’s now showed , 26 secondsup in the Epstein files his his wife the princess and do not ask me for her name she it’s in the story lag.com , 35 secondsshe was providing the payments they’re not even hiding so if I write you a check Eric to blow up you know Mark Aragosa’s firehouse that I’m sitting in , 43 secondsright now.

There’s a paper trail. That’s a paper trail. We have a paper trail directly from from very high ranking Saudi diplomat. , 52 secondsYes. That would be called obvious. That would be called easy to get. But but you just said but you just said that the woman writing , 1 secondthe checks for 911 is related to a guy in the Epstein files. , 8 secondsCorrect. Did I get that right? I think so. Huh? , 14 secondsSo why has this taken a lot of Exactly. , 20 secondsThis guy has a ton of connections all over the world. You know, we all watched. We I really was shocked when, , 27 secondsyou know, every administration, we know Bush shut it down because he ordered the release of this Saudi spy. , 33 secondsPeople expected more for Obama.

Yay, he’s going to be on the side of the 911 families. Nope. Quite the opposite. , 39 secondsThere was the justice against sponsors of foreign terrorism as a act that was uh passed by Congress in 2017 and , 48 secondspromptly vetoed by President Obama at that time who said this is going to complicate relationship with the Saudis. , 55 secondsFrankly, I think a lot of us who were there at ground zero were like, who gives a [ __ ] if it complicates our relationship with those Saudis? Let’s side with the dead and the families and , 3 secondsthe and the friends that we lost. But no, that wasn’t the case. Luckily, Congress overrode his veto. Then we have , 10 secondsBiden. And Biden did the right thing by releasing the so-called 28 pages, which you know are a lot more than 28 pages because you follow that fantastic , 18 secondsTwitter thread that everyone should read.

So, at least Biden declassified some of this intelligence that we’ve had , 27 secondsthe Bush administration bury, the Obama administration bury, Biden released some of it. Then you think Trump is going to come in in his first term and say, “We’re gonna side with New York.” 100%. , 37 secondsI’m a New Yorker. I was there. I love these 911 families. I love the military. , 41 secondsI mean, think about how many soldiers have died since in these wars you just brought up. Absolutely. We’re going to make sure that everything gets declassified. Quite the opposite. , 49 secondsInstead, in November 2025, he invites the prince, which pissed off these families who protested with that wanted , 56 secondsposter that’s in my story about wanted Omar Albayami was from a protest from these 91 11 families who were like, how , 3 secondsare we inviting these people to the White House?

And then Trump was asked, well, what about this? What about Jamal , 11 secondsKajigi? And he says, things happen. And that’s the attitude that every administration has had towards the , 18 secondsfamilies of the 2,977 people who perished in these attacks. , 23 secondsAnd to me, that’s astonishing and should be outrageous. And everyone in this country needs to rise up in the way that we rose up when we saw police brutality. , 32 secondsThis is a different sort of brutality. , 33 secondsThis is brutality against our intelligence. And it it is a a complete, like you said, super sober to the faces , 42 secondsof the families of the dead. And and to me, it’s unconscionable. And really, as a nation, we need to rise up and fight , 49 secondsback against every administration, the Justice Department.

And it’s all of them. And what does it all come down to? , 57 secondsThe powerful. And that’s why the Epstein files disclosure. That’s why I applaud these bipartisan lawmakers who were , 5 secondslike, “No, Cash Patel, give us the truth on the on 911.” No, Justice Department. , 10 secondsWe want all of the Epstein files. It’s all related because we’re protecting the power vote. , 15 secondsAh, and that’s where you please come in and and George W. Bush was also the the you know, he it was his administration and , 24 secondsit was Alberto Gonzalez was attorney general by the time this happened. , 28 secondsThey’re the ones who they actually had indictment of Jeffrey Epstein uh long time. He’s doing two things.

, 36 secondsHe’s sex trafficking children all over the place, but he’s also setting up for the destruction of the American banking system through the the mortgage market , 43 secondsand derivatives from his positions in Bear Sterns. He is he is joined by a a great number of financial traders to the , 51 secondsUnited States. But, you know, he’s a man for all seasons and and he pulls off all of these uh uh these offenses against uh , 59 secondshumanity in general and our country in in particular. And it’s the Bush administration, Bush 43, , 6 secondswho lets him go and allows him to plead to state charges. Disgusting. , 12 secondsSo, we’ve got someone tied into his network who funded 911. , 20 secondsCorrect.

These are these are details that were that have never been put together. , 27 secondsSo, and and you and I are not looking forward to getting shot and thrown into a pond. We kind of both know both put it on the record. I do drive an , 35 secondsold shitbox police car, but it has breaks. I’ve got them checked. You know, I I sat like listen when Ro Connor and Tom Massie were like we’re not suicidal. , 43 secondsThey did it in Jess, but it really is it’s true. I mean, look what in Russia they’re not even going to bother locking you up. You know, that billionaire in , 50 secondsthe Epstein files just ended up uh in a pool of blood in his super luxury high-rise in Moscow, right? , 56 secondsSome people just get depressed and stab themselves in the back three times with four kitchen knives.

It happens. , 2 secondsIt happens. You know, it happens more in Russia than it doesn’t happen to me. I’m a very happy girl, obviously. , 8 secondsWell, and and I I think there is a convergence here. I think it is not for nothing that in , 16 secondsSeptember of 2025, all of the sudden the Brits moved and they’re like, “Oh, uh, we need to talk about the, you know, you know, you know who covered this up. , 23 secondsYou know who covered this up? Is the FBI.” Okay. Um, so it’s interesting. You have Cash Patel is not forthcoming , 31 secondsum about everything people would like him to be and he was not blew off the Senate Intelligence Committee about this exact issue that we are talking about. , 41 secondsBut Patel is a very very important individual because he is not like everybody else and the the people that , 48 secondsthey brought in at the top of the FBI were not part of the well-groomed group of senior executive service , 57 secondsum law enforcement people that normally crawl to the top of the DOJ.

, 1 minute, 1 secondThe usual suspects that are involved in every single story whose names we know very well, right? um and many who we don’t know as , 1 minute, 9 secondswell who are they are GS14s and 15s in DC. They are part of the senior executive service of the government that , 1 minute, 17 secondswe just don’t nobody knows about. But as as long as you have a certain um , 1 minute, 27 secondsselection process for leadership, you can get what you want out of these institutions. Now it’s it’s very , 1 minute, 35 secondsinteresting there. Uh I was surprised to find out that uh there were British defense contractors who were allowed to , 1 minute, 43 secondshelp I think train senior executives from our intelligence services.

That would that always surprise me. It seemed like they’d be the kind of thing that we , 1 minute, 51 secondscould do on our own to form our own leadership. Why would the Brits want to be involved in that? And and who’s the first crew of the Epstein folks? Just , 2 minutestotal left turn ADHD. Uh who who’s the first group of people to get arrested from the the Epstein files? It’s the , 2 minutes, 9 secondsthe only people. You mean the only people, let’s be clear, the only people to get arrested. No one in the United States have been arrested for the Epstein files. , 2 minutes, 16 secondsBut Norway, it’s not they’re not the only ones. It’s Norway as well. And um they’ve been and they’ve been executing search warrants in France.

So they so , 2 minutes, 24 secondsthe search the arrest and search warrants go out in Britain, Norway, France and then then by the end of the , 2 minutes, 31 secondsweek we have destroyed Iran. [laughter] I mean this is wild times. So let’s not let’s not drive past. , 2 minutes, 38 secondsAnd the one Russian guy uh you know had a boat of suicidal tendencies. , 2 minutes, 44 secondsHe slipped and and fell into a a a vat of palonium tea after shooting himself three times. Yes. As or as I call it the , 2 minutes, 51 secondsRussian retirement plan. They don’t get AP, they get this. Um I mean, I don’t know. Something happens to you when you , 3 minutesdescribe your yourself as um Gilen Maxwell’s soulmate.

I don’t know. You’re not going to end well. It’s just a thought here. Yeah. , 3 minutes, 8 secondsUh in the words of They Might Be Giants, you can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding. , 3 minutes, 13 secondsHow shock. You know what’s funny about that, too? That email was from a few weeks before 911 when Epstein and , 3 minutes, 20 secondsMaxwell were going to Moscow. Now, that’s just my ADHD aside, but I’m like, this still goes back to 01 911. They’re going to Russia. , 3 minutes, 29 secondsHuh? You noticed that, huh? , 3 minutes, 32 secondsI did indeed. Now that we’re saying it out loud, I just noticed it now. I’m like, “Oh, huh.” Yeah. So, it’s weird like I I I came out , 3 minutes, 39 secondsin 2016, as we talked briefly about, you know, and I I said, “Hey, everyone, you might want to learn a little bit about how Russian trade craft works when it , 3 minutes, 46 secondscomes to spies.” And boy, the the American media got really angry.

They’re like, “That’s conspiracy theory. That’s , 3 minutes, 54 secondsmental illness. You’re not supposed to notice all these different people slipping away and going to Russia at different times.” , 4 minutes, 2 secondsOr notice that Jeffrey Epstein had a Saudi passport. Well, this Saudi Thank you. that was issued by the Austrians , 4 minutes, 10 secondsand and everybody is talking. He’s a pedophile. Like that’s the least distinct thing about him. Like he’s Yes. , 4 minutes, 18 secondsYes. He also raped children in his in his spare time. Yeah. Disgusting. Yep. , 4 minutes, 23 secondsBut he got he [snorts] got an Austrian passport with a Saudi address on it. I mean , 4 minutes, 32 secondsthat that is stuff that you you you’ve written many books.

You’ve dealt with editors. Can you name a single book editor who would not kick that premise , 4 minutes, 40 secondsback and say not plausible, not believable? 100%. , 4 minutes, 44 secondsMost of the stuff I’m reading in the Epstein files is like this is cannot possibly be true. And then it is because I know you you’ve written a bunch you’ve written a bunch of pilots. , 4 minutes, 55 secondsYou’ve you’ve written for TV. You’ve written for movies. You’ve you’ve done it. Any if it’s got words on a page, you’ve done it, right? , 5 minutes, 1 secondYep. And this Epstein story would never pass muster with an an editor, with a producer, with, you know, a television , 5 minutes, 11 secondsproducer for a documentary.

This stuff is so beyond the scope of like humanity. , 5 minutes, 17 secondsIt goes be it’s like it’s so inhumane that you can’t even believe it. And then you look at and say why would our own , 5 minutes, 24 secondsgovernment hurt the 9/11 families and you’re like I can’t even wrap my brain around this. I can’t there’s no amount of money in the world that would make me , 5 minutes, 32 secondssell out my countrymen. There’s because you’re not a psychopath. , 5 minutes, 36 secondsCorrect. Do you know Epstein called Trump a psychopath? And in direct reference to him bombing Iran, one of the emails is Epstein saying he could , 5 minutes, 45 secondspossibly bomb Iran or Syria because he’s a psychopath.

Jeffrey Epstein put that in writing to I believe uh oh, George , 5 minutes, 53 secondsMitchell, the 911 commissioner for a minute, half a minute. So George Mitchell showing up in the Epstein files all over the place. , 6 minutes, 1 secondWasn’t he from Maine, right? , 6 minutes, 3 secondsYeah, he’s from Maine. They’re ripping his face off the buildings of Maine as we speak. Hold on. , 6 minutes, 8 secondsI do not believe it. George Mitchell looks like a Boston hero because of his work in Ireland, right? And now he turns out to be , 6 minutes, 15 secondsdirt. Say that again. For his work in Ireland on the Troubles, right? , 6 minutes, 19 secondsOn the Troubles, which Jerry Adams, CIA informant.

, 6 minutes, 24 secondsOh, what a shocking coincidence. I still think that the Isabella Stewart Art Museum Heist was was pulled off by , 6 minutes, 32 secondsfederal entities to give Jerry Adams money as a bribe to become the CIA asset that we all know that he is now. , 6 minutes, 40 secondsI mean, you know, the the Soviets crawled up into into Ireland in like 1920. That was one of I did not know that. , 6 minutes, 48 secondsOh, yeah. That’s Kremlin as all get out. , 6 minutes, 51 secondsSo, so you had George, so you had somebody who was tied up in the troubles was put in charge of the 9/11 commission. Did I hear that correctly? , 7 minutes, 2 secondsYep. For half a minute, George Mitchell was a 911 uh I think it was the vice director or the vice chair of the vice chair of the commission.

For some reason, he bowed out of that position. , 7 minutes, 12 secondsBut George Mitchell and Epstein go way back, way back. And now George Mitchell is, you know, I think there’s levels , 7 minutes, 20 secondsthat Epstein is like pedo, then there’s Perve, then there’s just General Dirt Bag. And I think Mitchell falls between Perve and General Dirt Bag in the , 7 minutes, 28 secondsEpstein files from what I’ve read so far. , 7 minutes, 30 secondsAnd and Chancellor of Queens University in Belfast. , 7 minutes, 35 secondsAnd I did not know that. Did he get booted yet? And he was also he was chairman of DA Piper , 7 minutes, 44 secondsum a white shoe law firm. Have you ever heard of DA Piper? , 7 minutes, 48 secondsI have.

But why? I feel like I know this law firm very well for some reason. Well, Kla Harris’s husband. , 7 minutes, 55 secondsThat’s right. I mean, California. That’s right. , 7 minutes, 58 secondsThey’re a major entertainment law firm there, but everything law firm. But they have another distinction in my world. , 8 minutes, 5 secondsThey were the very first registrant in the foreign agent registration database which was designed for the Nazis and , 8 minutes, 13 secondsSoviets. Number two was TAS the Soviet telegraph agency. Number one registrant was DA Piper. Who did they represent? , 8 minutes, 25 secondsI don’t believe it’s out in the unclassified who they represented but they are the number one registrant in the the Farah database.

1938. The , 8 minutes, 34 secondsPharaoh was passed in 1938 to deal with Soviet and communist propaganda that was being spread throughout the United , 8 minutes, 42 secondsStates by the people that eventually ended up as the Nazi war machine and as well as the Soviets. DA Piper was the , 8 minutes, 51 secondsnumber one registrant was an American company and he happened if you look at my house in Venice I am , 8 minutes, 58 secondstriangulated between DA Piper’s main branch Rand and that mosque right smack dab in the middle is where you find my , 9 minutes, 5 secondslittle dumpia studio apartment but isn’t that interesting Rand the mosque in DA Piper all here , 9 minutes, 12 secondshuh how about that I mean there’s all on the west side there’s a lot going on on the west side , 9 minutes, 20 secondsthere.

Thousand Oaks over there. You ever heard of Yuri Bezmanov? No. , 9 minutes, 25 secondsHe Soviet defector in the 1980s. You go on YouTube, go look up a video of Yuri Bez talking to the John Burch Society, , 9 minutes, 34 secondsthe ultrarightwing guys, and he’s talking about he’s warning us about what the Russians are going to do over time. , 9 minutes, 40 secondsHe’s we will defeat you. And he was supposedly he was in this country because he was a a defector. He broke away from the the the terrible Soviet , 9 minutes, 49 secondssystem and he was warning us of the evils of communism. Eventually, he got kicked out. The that cover didn’t work , 9 minutes, 57 secondsany longer. But he there’s a there’s a very very arresting video of him talking , 10 minutes, 3 secondsabout what we’re going to do is slowly demoralize your institutions.

We’re going to break you down at the level of family, at the level of your churches, , 10 minutes, 11 secondsat the level of business. We’re going to take away your beliefs in your in yourself. We’re going to we’re going to corrode the the memory of your heroes. , 10 minutes, 19 secondsWe’re going to distort your your historical understanding. This is going to it will take decade over decade. , 10 minutes, 24 secondsWe’re trained for that. And in other words, if you go back to 1982, I think which is when this video was, and you look at everything that kind of happened , 10 minutes, 32 secondsup until the election of Donald Trump, which was where the Russian propaganda was being uh Russian style propaganda.

, 10 minutes, 43 secondsIt wasn’t just Russian nationals was Floridaid. It was everywhere. It’s one of the reasons I spoke up is like this stuff that was just so unmissable was , 10 minutes, 52 secondswas everywhere. Yuri Bzmanov 35 to 40 years before that said this is what we’re going to do and it’s going to take , 10 minutes, 59 secondsus decades but we’re going to slowly break you down and this is how we’re going to do it. And then it looks like someone did it. So, , 11 minutes, 7 secondswell, you know who owned the Boston Marathon? The mo the Boston Marathon bombers got into the country on a tourist visa from Ankora, Turkey, which , 11 minutes, 17 secondsjust happened to be where Graham Fuller was the CIA station chief.

They move into a home that was owned by a Russian , 11 minutes, 24 secondsdefector who was Graham Fuller’s Russian studies professor. , 11 minutes, 29 secondsWell, that house in Cambridge, Massachusetts was owned by a Russian defector who was teaching Russian at Harvard. It just happened to be Graham , 11 minutes, 36 secondsFuller’s professor at Harvard University. So these remember Russia if you look at operation ghost stories that , 11 minutes, 43 secondsRussian long that was like the long game the f the Americans is based on that case those kids went to denias Michelle I I was targeted by that guy. , 11 minutes, 56 secondsYou’re kidding. , 11 minutes, 56 secondsNo I had lunch with him. I s I sold his software products for a small period of time.

Never exchanged any money but um Oh yeah. No, we’ve met that show , 12 minutes, 6 secondsin the house. Doesn’t Oh, you mean the brail guy. The operation ghost stories guy. Yeah, the operation ghost stories guy. , 12 minutes, 12 secondsSo the the um No, that guy was pretending to be Canadian. This was to my great shame, which I told uh the FBI , 12 minutes, 20 secondsabout when they naturally wanted to talk to me down the line after he’d been deported. Um I sat down with with the , 12 minutes, 27 secondsfeds and they said, “All right, start at the top. What what do you want to say about this situation?” And I said, “I am so pissed.” I said, “Why are you , 12 minutes, 34 secondspissed?” I said, “He never swore.” He said he was French Canadian.

I’m from Vermont. I speak French. I speak Canadian French. , 12 minutes, 45 secondsHe didn’t he not one single, not one, not one sack, not one test. We would go back and forth, he and I, , 12 minutes, 53 secondsbetween English and French. His French was perfect. His English was great. Um, he had a weird accent that eventually kind of got under my skin. And , 13 minuteseventually he just called too many times. He was just showing up in Washington DC a little too often. My , 13 minutes, 8 secondsunderstanding was he was getting a little close to the Clinton people at when um you know uh when he was operating he was he was starting to get , 13 minutes, 17 secondsinto Hillary’s inner circle or something to that effect.

, 13 minutes, 20 secondsWell the Clinton Foundation and Harvard I mean of course they did. So that’s what they were that’s what they were going after in that case and they did it very successfully. They’ve they’ve , 13 minutes, 29 secondsinfiltrated the colleges. They infiltrated the schools. Even when my book came out, they asked me to do a book signing. The Russians did, the Russian studies program or whatever it , 13 minutes, 38 secondswas at the Harvard club. Of course, I did it if it [applause] meant I was going to sell 150 books, which I did. , 13 minutes, 44 secondsBut hey, this is your your Sarnia book. , 13 minutes, 47 secondsThis was your your So the R so the Russians wanted to exciting , 13 minutes, 54 secondsthat.

Hey, they these guys always go at small business people and and they at first they don’t push , 14 minutes, 2 secondshard than a broke ass writer. Let’s be clear. , 14 minutes, 5 secondsWell, you need something. You need something. , 14 minutes, 8 secondsYou’re going to buy 150 books. Yes. Now you’re going to Okay. Yeah, I’ll show up. Hey, I’ve been on I’ve been on Russia Today a couple times, right? So, , 14 minutes, 15 secondsI go on. Now, do I report these things in detail? But and and do I go on them anymore? No. No. We don’t get I got I , 14 minutes, 22 secondsgot sanctioned in 2022. the Russians and I we we know about each other now when we don’t get along. It’s good. But, you , 14 minutes, 29 secondsknow, 10 10 12 years ago, you know, I get a call from Russia today.

I sure I’ll go on. Yeah. And talk to another American about something that I’ve been , 14 minutes, 37 secondssaying anyhow. And then the way they would do recruitment of that sort would be they just see what you said and they say, “Do you want to say the thing you already said over here? You said this on , 14 minutes, 46 secondssocial media. You wrote this on your blog. Do you want to go say this on our show?” I’ll be like, “Sure, it’s no problem. I’m I’m not taking any tasking there. And it’s interesting. I might see how they do the handling of these folks. , 14 minutes, 56 secondsSo, you deal with all Americans. I I was on twice and then then somebody named Yolena calls me. I’m like, “Nah, we’re not dealing with Elena.

I’ll go on your , 15 minutes, 4 secondsthing.” But, um, you know, Yeah. I don’t want to hang out for dinner. I’m not having I’m not having, you know, coffee on a Thursday with you either. I’ll just show up for the book , 15 minutes, 12 secondssigning. But, but remember, you know, these these shows get booked a lot. When your book comes out, you know, you have a PR guy that’s like, “Show up here, show up there, show up everywhere.” And of , 15 minutes, 20 secondscourse you can, you know, you just But they they got a file on you. So they go, “You want to come to the book signing?” You’re like, “Sure, I’ll do the book signing.” Like, “Do you want to go out for coffee?” Right. That’s what I say. , 15 minutes, 31 secondsUh, no.

But somebody else might. , 15 minutes, 34 secondsAnd so, let’s say they know that there’s something about you. Um, you really like redheads or you’ve really you really , 15 minutes, 42 secondshave always wanted to date an African person or something like that. And they they put that person in your path. And then you go more in that direction. They , 15 minutes, 49 secondsgo, “Well, would you do this for us and would you do that and what what about the and next thing you know now you now you have a different , 15 minutes, 58 secondsrelationship.” But that’s this is the classic. Okay. Now we’re talking about we’re talking about counter intelligence. That’s we’re talking about recruitment. , 16 minutes, 5 secondsBut we’re talking about but to get back to the the Saudi stuff that you’ve been writing about, you know, when you’re talking about the , 16 minutes, 14 secondsrecruitment of somebody.

So you got a professor and maybe he’s from over here and maybe he does this, but it’s not he’s teaching literature. Now he invites , 16 minutes, 22 secondswriters to hear. He he’s doing what we call spot and assess. , 16 minutes, 28 secondsHe’s he might be one part of this. He’s getting information. And he’s going to hand this to Sergey, who’s going under the name Jacob, as part of his cover. , 16 minutes, 36 secondsAnd Jacob’s going to use the information that that guy to go try and do this as part of a long range development plan of blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That is not what you’ve been writing about. , 16 minutes, 45 secondsWhat you’ve been writing about is a Saudi intelligence officer living in the middle of Los Angeles recruiting murderers to commit murder.

Everyone knows about it. Everyone knew about it. , 16 minutes, 57 secondsThis is the easiest stuff in the counter inelligence world to figure out. There is no reason , 17 minutes, 5 secondsnot to know about it. There’s no reason that all these countries didn’t know about it. And yet 25 years later, we’re still getting bullshitted. So what’s up, folks? , 17 minutes, 13 secondsSo yeah, why are we getting bullshitted 25 years later about the Saudis, especially now where, you know, this week they were very critical of the , 17 minutes, 21 secondsstrike in Iran, at least publicly. you know, they they uh came out with the foreign ministry, had a statement saying , 17 minutes, 28 secondsthat they were going to protect uh their interests with whatever that took.

So, it did sound like there was a little bit of a break between the chummy relationship , 17 minutes, 37 secondswith the Trump administration and the Saudis, at least on the surface. Who knows what’s going on underneath that? , 17 minutes, 43 secondsSo, maybe this is the chance now that the 911 families are finally going to get a little bit of justice. And and shout out to the to the US District , 17 minutes, 50 secondsCourt Judge Daniels, Greg Daniels, who’s who’s looking at this and say and calling [ __ ] He’s the first guy in , 17 minutes, 57 seconds25 years to look at the evidence, say, “I call [ __ ] on this.” Yes, let’s have a hearing. The Saudis have been filing a flurry of documents to try to , 18 minutes, 6 secondsstop that from happening.

But let’s all pray that hopefully this gets at least aired out in a courtroom in New York , 18 minutes, 13 secondsCity in the Southern District which is filled with some of the best judges in the nation. , 18 minutes, 19 secondsI wonder if we’re not at a at a real confluence for time here where all these things are happening at once. We’re taking apart the cartels. , 18 minutes, 29 secondsUm you know, Venezuelans are down, the Iranians are down. Uh, we’re isolating , 18 minutes, 37 secondsthe Chinese. Um, it’s funny. The North Koreans are finally very, very quiet. We looks like , 18 minutes, 45 secondswe have a way to get the Russians under under control. Meanwhile, we are exposing the psychopaths in our midst , 18 minutes, 53 secondsand we are exposing their relationship with the British royal family.

And we are now looking at the networks of , 19 minutes, 1 secondelites that apparently have no problem with mass um abuse of our children in some of the nastiest ways. This is all , 19 minutes, 10 secondshappening at the same time. Perhaps that’s not on accident, right? I think you I think you can’t you , 19 minutes, 17 secondsknow you can’t discuss one of these things without starting to get into the others and you’ve made some connections here tonight that have never been made I , 19 minutes, 25 secondsdon’t think between the Epstein people and the 9/11 [clears throat] attacks. , 19 minutes, 30 secondsSo um I you know I think these guys work covertly although barely covertly in the sense that a lot of their operations are , 19 minutes, 37 secondsvery easy to pick up but they’re so powerful that people will then cover up after them.

they will there’s information that could be given out to , 19 minutes, 45 secondspeople that would solve the puzzle but they are protected somebody covers it up and I think they also have the ability , 19 minutes, 54 secondsto create very bombastic events that we are stuck talking about whether it’s you , 20 minutesknow they knock over uh these buildings or you know in in Midtown Manhattan or lower Manhattan , 20 minutes, 9 secondsor they shoot up a school in Connecticut or or a number of things. I mean, we we , 20 minutes, 18 secondsI forget how much of this has gone gone public, but when you look at the George Floyd, you know, that wasn’t any more , 20 minutes, 24 secondsorganic in in how it it happened.

It was not it was not an accident. It doesn’t seem anyhow. I don’t know how much is , 20 minutes, 32 secondsgoing to be out there, how quick, but until you take apart that network that can create these events all over the place, maybe it’s not worth having the , 20 minutes, 40 secondsdiscussion. But if you’re going to tear apart all the international uh money laundereries and you’re going to you’re going to , 20 minutes, 48 secondsyou’re going to tear apart the you know countries like Iran that have huge capacity for covert operations. They they have spy networks. They have sleeper cells. They have all this stuff. , 20 minutes, 59 secondsWell, not anymore. They can’t reach them. They can’t send money to them.

, 21 minutes, 2 secondsThat’s done. Now maybe you can’t visit some of these really heavy subjects until you take this these other things , 21 minutes, 10 secondsapart and per you know and were some of the people involved were they aware of that were past FBI directors aware that , 21 minutes, 18 secondsit was so complicated that if you’re the one that comes out and just starts talking about this that you know what’s , 21 minutes, 26 secondsgoing to happen is you’re going to get smashed, you’re going to get destroyed and the truth isn’t going to come out. So then where are where is anybody? , 21 minutes, 34 secondsYou’re screwed as an individual and nobody’s any better off. So why destroy yourself?

, 21 minutes, 41 secondsWell, there’s a couple of FBI agents that deserve a lot of credit. They’re named in my story. They were they were working on Operation Encore and they’ve , 21 minutes, 48 secondsgiven public declarations on behalf of the 911 families, the 911 justice families, saying exactly what they , 21 minutes, 56 secondslearned and what was held from them. And I give people like that kudos because like you said, they could definitely be destroyed. These are two guys who , 22 minutes, 4 secondsdedicated their lives to law enforcement. They worked really hard to try to get to the bottom of 9/11 and they were stonewalled by their own justice department and they said as much , 22 minutes, 12 secondsin declarations that are now part of the discovery in this case.

So there are people who are out there mounting the brave fight and they deserve all the accolades in the world. , 22 minutes, 22 secondsMichelle, nobody knows that about these two FBI guys. Nobody. You’re the You’re the first across the line with that story. It’s incredibly important. , 22 minutes, 32 secondsYou’re This is new. It may not be new to you. I guarantee you it’s new to the audience that the F there’s two guys who came out on behalf of the families and , 22 minutes, 40 secondssaid our own FBI covered up key parts of this attack that’s not known to the public yet. , 22 minutes, 52 secondsand they and they actually, you know, said, “Look, this is what we know.” I think um and I’m sorry that I don’t have his name right in front of me, but he , 23 minutes, 1 secondtalked a lot about the mosque and how, you know, the FBI had a case on the mosque and they were watching the mosque and they knew that this guy was dangerous.

They knew he was saying crazy , 23 minutes, 9 secondsthings. They knew he was trying to incite other people to recite crazy things. And yet, nobody took any action. , 23 minutes, 17 secondsWe We It’s a matter of public record. , 23 minutes, 19 secondsAnyone who read the great book Looming Tower knows John O’Neal has been had been thumping that drum for a long time. , 23 minutes, 26 secondsThe FBI agent who was on the ground for the first and we’re talking about the anniversary of the first World Trade Center bombing this week. And you know, , 23 minutes, 35 secondshe’s been saying all along that al-Qaeda had the capacity to pull off something catastrophic and he was ignored. He quit his job and weirdly was the head of , 23 minutes, 44 secondssecurity at the World Trade Center towers.

He was two weeks into his new job when he perished. So, this is some crazy coincidences that are taking place, but there are definitely people. , 23 minutes, 54 secondsAnd so, you know, people say I’m critical of the FBI and their handling of the Boston Marathon. I am, but not everybody. We’re talking about the people at the very top who every time I , 24 minutes, 2 secondslook at any of these cases that I’ve written about, and I’ve written about a lot of them, it’s the people at the top, and it’s usually the same name or the , 24 minutes, 10 secondssame two or three names over and over and over again. and people that y’all familiar with. I don’t need to get sued, but you know these are people that , 24 minutes, 17 secondsthey’re always even if you look at Jerry Adams who was around Boston at that time who signed up Whitey Bulier that same , 24 minutes, 25 secondsguy.

Everywhere I look, Whitey Bulger, we have that guy. Jerry Adams, we have that guy. The Boston Marathon bombing. , 24 minutes, 31 secondsHe was in charge of the FBI. Everyone’s going to figure out who it is. I don’t need to say it out loud, but you know, the Russia gate, that guy. I I I’m , 24 minutes, 40 secondsshocked if I haven’t looked yet, but you know, I’d love to know where he appears, if at all, in the Epstein files, , 24 minutes, 47 secondsbut it’s the people at the very top that have stonewalled their own guys. Those are the ones that I’m talking about when I say that we should be critical when , 24 minutes, 55 secondswe’re going to march for reform, any police reform. The reform should start at the at the highest levels of government in counterterrorism because , 25 minutes, 4 secondspeople die over and over and over again because of these counterterrorism failures.

And 911 is the most glaring example, but the Boston Marathon bombing , 25 minutes, 11 secondsmistakes were made. Relationships were covered up 100%. We know that the the uh Pulse nightclub shooter gave a shout out , 25 minutes, 19 secondsto the Boston Marathon bombers. And we know that the FBI had a file on them buying that guy buying ammunition. So over and over and over again, these same , 25 minutes, 27 secondspeople make mistakes and are never held accountable. And that’s what I I think these stories are important. We should ask the same question the parliament is , 25 minutes, 36 secondsasking. The UK parliament is asking the questions American people should be asking. What the actual f?

Why are you stonewalling the families? , 25 minutes, 45 secondsSo, you know, when people go to when bad guys go to characterize these discussions, they will talk about conspiracy theory and paranoia. , 25 minutes, 57 secondsNow, paranoia can be a real clinical thing where you become obsessed with the literal Greek term is um being mindful , 26 minutes, 6 secondsof the margins. That’s what paranoia means in Greek. Instead of focusing on what’s in front of you, you’re constantly focusing on on the outside , 26 minutes, 15 secondsand that which is on the edge and maybe not as important as something something else. Um, so when you say, you know, all , 26 minutes, 23 secondsthese all these law enforcement or intelligence things, they run into the same five names.

There’s a difference , 26 minutes, 31 secondsbetween paranoia and conspiracy theory where somebody who isn’t very knowledgeable necessarily has kind of an emotional angle of attack on these , 26 minutes, 40 secondsthings and they say they’re all out to get us. They they arrive at the conclusion. They arrive at the answer before they even understand the question , 26 minutes, 47 secondsthat’s being asked, which is they say, “Someone out there is is out to get me.” And they they pick a , 26 minutes, 56 secondsfew threeletter agencies because they’ve heard of them. It’s the CIA. And you know, you look on I mean, I’ve been covering these books , 27 minutes, 4 secondsfor decades, you know, many of and so this is historical knowledge in documentation.

And then any person who wants to do the work that I’ve done , 27 minutes, 12 secondswhich is the work it is work thousands of pages it’s work this is this is well documented this is not this is hardly , 27 minutes, 19 secondsparanoia it’s historical knowledge you know when when you create an expertise around the topic and because I write about terrorism exclusively and I was , 27 minutes, 28 secondsthere at the Boston Marathon bombing on Boil Street I was there on 911 at ground zero I watched the aftermath I’ve , 27 minutes, 36 secondscovered the aftermath I have countless police sources that are guiding me in my reporting. It’s not paranoia. It is work. It’s reporting job. , 27 minutes, 44 secondsGod [laughter] bless you.

, 27 minutes, 45 secondsFor very little money, by the way, you know, so it’s not like I’m out there getting rich off getting pissed off. It’s work. , 27 minutes, 54 secondsWell, and and if you see a pattern of the same names appearing over and over again, it is only natural to go, all right, we need to ask about this person. , 28 minutes, 3 secondsWhy are Bill Bar William Bar attorney general twice first time he comes in George HW Bush , 28 minutes, 13 secondsand he shuts down an investigation into the theft of promise software which is the prosecutor’s management , 28 minutes, 21 seconds[clears throat] , 28 minutes, 22 secondsinformation system that was DOJ software that was there to join up the the relational databases in the very early , 28 minutes, 29 seconds80s for uh tax counter intelligence and criminal RICO organized crime prosecutions.

, 28 minutes, 39 secondsAnd during the during the Reagan administration, Ed Me stops paying the bills for Enslaw. They , 28 minutes, 46 secondsgo out of business and those assets have to be put up for sale. The uh promise software is then stolen supposedly by , 28 minutes, 54 secondsRobert Maxwell, Gilen’s dad, who sells it to the the Russians and the Lafians and or whoever else. Um and of of course , 29 minutes, 2 secondsyou know around that time um this guy Jeffrey Epstein starts working with the Maxwell family. In 1991, , 29 minutes, 10 secondsBill Barr comes in and shuts down two investigations. One into BCCI which is supposedly a front for the CIA and whose , 29 minutes, 18 secondsmoney Jeffrey Epste was probably running.

And then he bar shuts down the investigation , 29 minutes, 25 secondsuh into the promised software, you know, closes it up nice and tidy. , 29 minutes, 30 secondsBoom. Bill Clinton comes in. You go a couple presidents later, you have Donald Trump gets in office and Bill Barr takes , 29 minutes, 40 secondsthe seat as attorney general again and you get um a shutdown of the Mueller , 29 minutes, 48 secondsinvestigation or it gets guided and and sort of it gets proposed to the American people a certain way like nothing to see here. But around that time, Jeffrey , 29 minutes, 55 secondsEpstein is prosecuted. He’s put in the Metropolitan Detention Center and he’s immediately dead and his body’s gone.

, 30 minutes, 2 secondsAnd the guy who does the um uh he’s the medical examiner is Dr. Michael Ben who’s very famous , 30 minutes, 10 secondswho’s very famous for doing JFK, OJ Simpson’s wife, George Floyd, and Michael Brown Ferguson among others. and , 30 minutes, 17 secondsSandra Burmore murdered by a police officer in Massachusetts in a foyer coverup that only came to light because of Michael Ben’s work. , 30 minutes, 26 secondsInteresting. , 30 minutes, 28 secondsI don’t know if it’s good, but it’s interesting. He’s I’ll send you that story. I did that one, too. , 30 minutes, 34 secondsHe’s all over the place. And then he does Jeffrey Epstein, you know, and but the guy who’s really there at he he’s he’s there is Bill Bar.

, 30 minutes, 44 secondsNow, who hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach at the Dalton School? Donald Bar, William Bar’s father. I didn’t know I know that. Come on. , 30 minutes, 54 secondsRight. So, it’s not paranoia if you just keep going, wait a minute, that’s his dad. Like, it there’s 330 million , 31 minutes, 1 secondAmericans. Not all of them hired Jeffrey Epstein or, you know, came in and covered something up that Jeffrey , 31 minutes, 8 secondsEpstein was involved in and then came in and was there when Jeffrey Epste got uh, you know, money through a banking system where the , 31 minutes, 17 secondsjudge who was looking into the banking system, had a mysterious knock at her door where her son ends up dead and her and her husband ends up.

, 31 minutes, 24 secondsSo, there’s like there’s a lot of things here and and yes, they’ve weaponized the word conspiracy. They’ve weaponized it. , 31 minutes, 30 secondsNow you’re just a nut sitting in a basement, you know, going down a rabbit hole. Or you could take and remember the days when journalism was respected, , 31 minutes, 38 secondsinvestigative journalism led to Watergate. In fact, investigative journalism took down Jeffrey Epstein. , 31 minutes, 44 secondsAnd you and you put some more faith in I think what investigative journalists are , 31 minutes, 51 secondscapable of because what we have been doing for decades, your work with what you do and putting together these plans and strategies and understanding all of this uh how this whole mechanism works.

, 32 minutes, 3 secondsYou do it for corporations, journalists do it for you, for the public. And now they’re trying to dismiss us as as craft , 32 minutes, 11 secondspots and idiots. It’s it’s really astonishing. But I think that, you know, that’s why I’m so grateful that you invited me on because you do have that , 32 minutes, 18 secondscore audience of people who actually trust you, know what you’re talking about because you’ve proven it. You have a history of of what you’re saying is , 32 minutes, 26 secondsbacked up by facts. This that’s really what we should be looking for. And this story in the LA in LA magazine about the , 32 minutes, 33 secondsSaudis, all of it is contained in court records.

Challenge me. Anyone can email me. Michelle with one lm michellemcy.com. , 32 minutes, 40 secondsYou can shout out a a terrible question on Twitter. I’ll answer it. All of this is backed up by documentation. This , 32 minutes, 47 secondsisn’t this isn’t sourced. This isn’t deep sources. This isn’t somebody leaked it to me to tickle the wire. This is , 32 minutes, 55 secondspart of a lawsuit. It’s contained in a lawsuit. It’s all public. You pulled the thread years ago and now the thread continues. And hopefully this gets some , 33 minutes, 3 secondsattention for the families because that’s who matters in this entire story are these families who are getting screwed over. Well, you’re doing actual , 33 minutes, 11 secondsjournalism.

You are picking a topic. You are you are gathering your information and you’re letting the story be told based on those facts. I mean, where I’m , 33 minutes, 20 secondsfrom, that’s an intelligence analyst, but um you know, whatever. But because the journalists that are out there in , 33 minutes, 27 secondsthe corporate environment in general are are people that have been trafficking, especially the last 10 years since Trump got in, you have a whole lot of this secret sources say. , 33 minutes, 39 secondsAnd um several sources close to the matter say and oh we you know somebody gave me classified intelligence which , 33 minutes, 46 secondsI’m going to tell you here but I I have rights as a journalist.

I’m not going to tell you where I got this um national defense information that is illegal for , 33 minutes, 53 secondsme to even possess at all under 18 US code 793 which has no statutory cutouts for Listen, if you were going to slide me a couple of those documents, I’m not going , 34 minutes, 1 secondto say no. Let’s be honest, Eric. So, I don’t have a problem with the with the reporters doing their job, which is to try to get their hands on documents like that , 34 minutes, 9 secondsthat, you know, uh that I I I think a lot of things are overclassified. So, in general, I in general, I I see where , 34 minutes, 16 secondsyou’re you’re going, but we have entire we have entire ecosystems of stories that are based on , 34 minutes, 24 secondshorseshit that when you get to the when you finally get to the end, and this is we’ve got grand juries that are open right now that I think you’re I mean, we , 34 minutes, 32 secondsknow it ties into the Epstein people here because we’ve got Kathy Rumler who was uh who was in Obama’s , 34 minutes, 39 secondsadministration.

She was vetting That is a crazy story. It’s a crazy story, right? , 34 minutes, 44 secondsWe can’t start it because I have to go to a dinner in 10 minutes, but I could talk for the best. We could talk for hours because I rang , 34 minutes, 52 secondsand and and and perhaps we shall do it again. But uh I wanted to say thank you and I wanted to to learn more about what you were thinking and it was such a , 35 minutes, 1 secondgreat idea to to do so. You are doing wonderful work out there and I don’t even think you recognize how important it is, but we’ll make sure more people , 35 minutes, 9 secondsunderstand and we’ll get more people reading it. So, where can we find more of you? You’re on Twitter, right?

, 35 minutes, 14 secondsI’m on Twitter, Michelle with 1L uh MC MCP AG. But I I want to say thank you because honestly, it’s people who are , 35 minutes, 23 secondsbrave enough to speak out and and connect the dots and be willing to pull the string. Without people like you, you know, I think a lot of people would be , 35 minutes, 31 secondsheld in the dark there. There’s more. We need more and more people. And when we see what’s happening in newsrooms across the country and we see what’s happening to people like you who are being , 35 minutes, 39 secondsdiscredited by the Atlantic which unnecessarily it really is more and more important that people start to pay , 35 minutes, 46 secondsattention and all of this research they can do themselves.

You know you posted the documents these aren’t fake like , 35 minutes, 53 secondsthey come from the FBI vault. Anybody can look at the FBI vault. Look it up. , 35 minutes, 58 secondsThe 911 28 pages. Read it yourself. Once you start going down into these documents, you will become apoplelectics , 36 minutes, 5 secondslike you and I do when we see these patterns that are ignored largely. This 9/11 story is a big one and it’s and , 36 minutes, 13 secondsit’s not going to go away and hopefully the it’s hopefully at the very least we bring some Saudi government officials , 36 minutes, 21 secondsinto a courtroom to answer some questions. If they don’t want to do that, then they can pay the families.

, 36 minutes, 26 secondsTwo choices, pay or talk. So those are the two choices that uh the US District Court judge has left them at this point. , 36 minutes, 34 secondsAnd that is and that is great news. And it’s a wonderful timing that we have some district judges in the United States who are like no no no we’re going , 36 minutes, 42 secondsto choose the right thing here. And you don’t you know they’re not it’s not going to get dismissed on a rule 12B6. , 36 minutes, 49 secondsIt’s no this lawsuit can go forward. You can use the American courts to get the truth. And God there’s going to be you , 36 minutes, 57 secondsgot to get to dinner. There is so much more to go. Michelle McI, thank you for what you do and thank you for being here tonight.

, 37 minutes, 4 secondsThank you so much for having me honestly and and to be continued. I I would love to, you know, talk again. Oh, I I I promise you something. , 37 minutes, 13 secondsCan you imagine the next time I’m in Vermont, we’re going to take a barn and just do all the string walls from all the Epstein connections that go back to 911 because there’s a lot of them. , 37 minutes, 21 secondsThat’s our next mission. You’re on. Done. Deal. Done. , 37 minutes, 26 secondsDeal. All right. And thank you for everybody who watches Game Theory today. , 37 minutes, 30 secondsClick like, subscribe, all that good stuff. And we will talk to you soon. Take care all.