The Declassified Secrets of 9/11 with Michele McPhee

Guys, it’s time for some game Theory. Good evening and welcome to Game Theory Today. I’m Eric Garland. We’ve got a great show tonight. There’s a lot going on. Uh America and uh about eight other countries. The list is growing at all times at war with Iran. So, the Middle Eastern situation is uh way up in the air. What a great time to dig into the attacks of September 11th, 2001. There’s enough going on. I probably wouldn’t have gotten into this um uh into this topic. Uh but for a an astonishing new article uh in LA magazine right now by the esteemed crime writer and investigator Michelle McI, a proud daughter of Boston and current resident of Los Angeles, uh who’s digging into um the events of September 11th and how they relate to what went on in Southern California at that time.

And that’s something I I have done investigation into as well. And as soon , 6 secondsas I was done, promptly uh stopped and paused and waited for history to to catch up. But uh Michelle is a longtime , 13 secondsuh investigative journalist, an expert in criminal investigations and other things. We’re going to bring her up and we’re going to have a a rollicking good , 22 secondstime here. Let’s bring her on. Michelle, how are you there? , 27 secondsHow are you? It’s good to see you, Erica. We’re going to conduct this entirely in a in a series of New England accents since you challenged whether or not I was really from the New England , 35 secondsarea. And I’m, you know, I take that as a challenge.

, 40 secondsWell, you proved yourself. You pro when you said when you told me how you ordered a latch coffee and a garlic bag, I’m like, “All right, kid. You’re in.” , 47 secondsAll righty. You are You are not just from Boston. You are from Easty. Correct. , 54 secondsEast Boston. East Boston. Yes. , 57 secondsAnd Boston. , 59 secondsAnd you write books about all kinds of stuff. You’ve written what, five, six, seven books somewhere in there. , 7 secondsSeven books. Yep. Um, usually long form investigative pieces like the kind that you’re prone to dig into where you pull , 14 secondsa thread and everything starts to disentangle and you just can’t stop until you have the answers. And as we both know, we have many sleepless nights because of these sorts of stories.

, 24 secondsOkay. Now, now my My listeners are going to love this that I have someone to to be with to talk about this kind of , 32 secondsstuff. So you’ve written about the Sarna brothers, right? , 36 secondsCorrect. Yep. Who I I think my book proves that the older brother was working as an asset for certain federal entities. you know, they they threw him , 44 secondsover in Cheschna and he was recording um family members and he helped uh counterterrorism officials in Dagistan , 53 secondstrack and kill some very high level terror targets during his trip to Russia when he came back to Boston and all of a sudden he’s on the fast track to , 2 secondscitizenship that he was not eligible for in any way because he was which which country’s federal because there’s federal entities in Australia.

, 11 secondssee there. While I believe he had some fairly serious ties to the Boston FBI field office, but more importantly to , 18 secondsthe CIA through his uncle’s father-in-law, a guy named Graham Fuller, who I’m sure you, given your work, is familiar with. , 28 secondsOkay. So, you’ve tied the Boston Marathon bombing to the CIA. Any other anything else you dug into just out of curiosity? , 37 secondsWell, of course, we have some Armenian mobsters who teamed up with a polygamous cult in Utah known as the Kingston Clan, , 44 secondswho by the way were laundering their money through Turkey with a CIA asset named Baron Corkmmonts, handled by Graham Fuller. , 54 secondsOkay. So, you’ve you’ve ti you’ve tied Turkish underworld to a variety of , 3 secondshostile intelligence services.

uh you’ve messed around with the the the Kremlin here and now as dessert, you’ve decided , 11 secondsto dig into the Saudi role in September 11th. , 17 secondsWell, you know, I think this is a case I can never let go of because on that terrible morning, I was at ground zero. , 23 secondsYou know, I woke up that day and I had a great front page story. I was the police bureau chief of the Daily News and we worked out of one police plaza which was , 31 secondsvery close to the World Trade Center Towers. , 33 secondsGot it. I was all excited about my front page. Black Panther captured. There was a great story about a guy, Patrick Kitten, who had hijacked a couple of , 41 secondsplanes and landed in Cuba and was on the lamb all over the world in Tunisia.

And they finally captured him with the great work of the NYPD. And this was like like , 50 secondsa stellar NYPD investigation. I’d been working on it for months. It was one of those deals where once in a while the cops say, “Hey, can you settle down on , 58 secondsthe story for a minute? Give us some breathing room to find the guy and then we’ll give you the exclusive.” which they actually followed through with when , 5 secondsI did just that. So on September 10th, we ne we got them. We splashed the story as they call they say in the business. , 12 secondsIt was the front page of the New York Daily on the morning of September 11th. , 15 secondsAnd I will never forget it burning and blowing all over lower Manhattan as those towers came down.

And I lost like , 25 secondsmany of us many many friends that terrible morning. um 343 firefighters, 23 New York City cops, 37 Port Authority , 33 secondspolice officers, a retired FBI agent that we’re all familiar with. There are a lot of people we knew in our world and you were in the you were the head of the police beat for the Daily News. , 44 secondsYes, I was. So, you know, our instinct is to run towards the towers obviously like but that’s where I was going and I got grabbed physically by a police chief , 53 secondsthat I knew pretty well, Tom Fehee. And Tom Fehee said, “You’re not going that way. You’re going this way.” And the people who followed Tom Fehee lived. And , 3 secondsthe people in the command center where we were all trying to get to did not.

, 6 secondsSo, you know, I I 911 was a very crucial time in my life. I spent five years covering the ugly aftermath. I did my , 15 secondsbest to try to um profile the heroes that we lost that day. the and to this day, as you can see, I’m friends with , 23 secondsmany of the people that I wrote about almost 25 years ago, if you can believe. , 26 seconds25 years ago. It’s astonishing to think that it’s been that long. , 32 secondsAnd yet there is a bunch to still uncover and yet we’re still being lied to. And and you know, people who I believe and I think many people believe are tied in. , 43 secondsIt’s the evidence is overwhelming. the ties to the Saudi government and to the , 50 secondshijackers who first arrived.

The first two guys came to Southern California and they came here for a reason. We now know , 58 secondsafter 25 years of of stonewalling from our own justice department, the 911 , 6 secondsfamilies are finally getting some answers. And as you know, because you were the first person to pull up this thread when the uh reports were , 15 secondsdeclassified, a lot of this information go the the first to go at it in the , 22 secondsunclassified space on Twitter in the way that I did. And nobody I don’t think that there was nobody in major media , 29 secondsthat followed up on that. But there’s been very few. It’s shocking how little people are writing about 911, you , 37 secondsknow, where uh Especially when you know that you know Khik Muhammad who has now , 44 secondsfinally cooperated like he is confirming a lot of the information that these 9/11 families have been pursuing in a lawsuit , 52 secondsthat we both know as Ashton versus uh the Saudi royal family and it’s it’s f so I’ll let you undig it because you , 1 secondwere the first person to kind of go through these declassified files and it was unbelievable how much information is in them and And that wasn’t even , 8 secondsanything yet because Okay, so my for the the viewers out there, I I wrote a thread in , 15 secondsSeptember of 2021 within hours if not minutes of when the Biden administration declassified on September 11th, 2021.

, 25 secondsThey put out uh a bunch of redacted still. There’s redactions in there. um , 32 secondsthey declassified uh quite a few FBI 302 reports and I think intelligence analyst , 39 secondsreports um that detailed in particular , 45 secondsthe role of Saudi agents and the Saudi government itself , 54 secondsthrough its consulate in Los Angeles, California and activities around the King Farhad , 1 secondmosque where George HW Bush’s old chief of staff, John Cenounu, was on site when they christened it, I believe. Maybe , 9 secondschristened is probably the wrong verb, but dedicated it. He was there at the opening ceremony. , 16 secondsUm or sorry, I maybe it was Chrisu, uh John Cenounu’s son, I think.

Anyway, um get, you know, interesting, you know, Bush family connections going on there. , 28 secondsum that that information was declassified and I said well one this is being declassified on September 11th , 37 secondsum on the 20th anniversary of the attacks. So it seemed quite symbolic and there’s a lot of stuff from the Biden administration that they didn’t follow , 45 secondsthrough on. Maybe a second Biden administration would have followed through on on that if there had been , 52 secondscontinuity. Sometimes happens. It’s one of the the advantages of having a second administration as a president. Um, but , 1 secondeither way, this stuff was revealed and I, you know, I did a Twitter thread which I think I think gotten the , 8 secondsthousands of of views.

It was not major media. But then again, the major the media corporations , 15 secondshave been roundly hostile to me um on very nasty and personal level since , 22 seconds[snorts] I came out and and revealed the influence of hostile foreign intelligence in the 2016 election. , 29 secondsThat’s when I went from being an author for the Atlantic to being a butt of jokes from the Atlantic. Isn’t that interesting? You’re you’re you’re a , 38 secondswriter. Like if you’re if you’re an author at at a media outlet and all a sudden they start writing hit pieces on you without even calling you for a , 45 secondsquote. That’s kind of you know and that’s why we need independent media. I’m a firm believer in independent media for this very reason.

, 55 secondsYou know I think that this story all around has been ignored and and at this point now I think we can agree this is , 2 secondsnot crazy ranting Reddit threads. This is a welldocumented court case that is filled with public discovery that any , 11 secondshuman being can go into pacer and read what we are talking about. This is not nutso conspiracy theory. This is conspiracy theory , 19 secondsdiscovery. This is discovery in a case in a landmark civil suit. this any so let’s catch everybody up that there , 26 secondsis a there is a civil tort lawsuit from at least one family um who was , 34 secondsmany families I believe okay it’s a it’s a it’s a um it’s a multipliff um lawsuit there are families in the United States , 43 secondswho were grieved by the loss of the companionship um and the relationship of their family , 50 secondsmembers who died that day and they are seeking seeking um they are seeking to , 57 secondsbe made whole to recover losses from the Saudi government.

Right. , 4 secondsCorrect. Yep. And and you know this is a landmark case that could reach trillions of dollars. And what the 911 justice , 12 secondsfamilies argue is look it there is a clear nexus of the funding of these hijackers when they first arrived. And , 20 secondsthe first two, as we know, showed up right here in Los Angeles. They landed at LAX and and really if you go back , 28 secondsthrough the history, and it’s well documented now, none of this is in dispute. These guys had just gone to an al-Qaeda summit in Malaysia. They were , 37 secondswith the leaders of al-Qaeda, including Khake Muhammad. These guys were little mini celebrities because they had , 44 secondsalready been fighting on behalf of the Mujaheden for years.

They had been in Bosnia. They had been in other parts of , 52 secondsthe Middle East fighting on behalf of al-Qaeda, but whatever formation of al al-Qaeda it was before Osama bin Laden had taken over. They had pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden in Bosnia while fighting alongside the Taliban. , 7 secondsAnd now the the the you have the decade of the ‘9s, you have the fall of the Soviet Union. And you also, you know, this , 16 secondsconnects to the period that a lot of people know as Charlie Wilson’s war, um, where you you had the Soviets invade Afghanistan. , 26 secondsAnd in a phenomenally successful operation, the CIA funds its largest , 34 secondscovert operation, bringing war to the USSR in Afghanistan through a proxy.

And , 42 secondsthat proxy was the mu mujahedin who eventually they became the Taliban. But at that , 50 secondstime they were um they were ready to fight against the abuses of the Soviets and were righteous in doing so. They , 58 secondswere very religious. They were very tribal amongst themselves. These are, you know, a Afghan tribes where, you , 6 secondsknow, the Afghanis are, uh, known, I believe the country is nicknamed in some areas, um, the graveyard of empires , 14 secondsbecause nobody’s held the place successfully since Alexander the Great. , 18 secondsAnd that’s a clue. [laughter] That’s That’s interesting. I’d never heard that term, but that’s interesting. , 24 secondsAnd no, you know, Alexander the Great subdued the place, and he was the last one to do so successfully.

everybody else leaves the way the Soviets did and , 33 secondsthen we did. Um, so the 1990s come up and I I started in the world of intelligence in the 1990s , 41 secondsand I was in Washington DC for 911 and I was an analyst in DC when the Taliban started blowing up Buddha statutes. , 54 secondsUh, and people were looking at the the blasphemy of that and sort of the anti- civilization angle to these cats. And I , 4 secondsknew a lot of guys who were cold warriors, you know, people that had trained in the Russian language, who really knew what the Soviets got up to. , 13 secondsAnd there was this this false sense of security during the Clinton administration that dovetailed into the , 22 secondsGeorge W.

Bush administration of well it’s it’s over here we’re we’re done and um we won and sure there you know the , 31 secondsthe dot era um there was a lot of money to be made there it was easy money there was uh you know it was a sunny time in , 40 secondsthe United States we had we seemed to have won ideologically and the things that we had innovated throughout the , 46 seconds20th century like business techniques uh like gap accounting accounting or um you , 55 secondsknow general corporate marketing practices. These are things that we started exporting around the world and people were the executives were very , 2 secondsexcited to export it to China and Russia our supposedly former ideologically or , 8 secondsideological enemies adversaries at the very least in China’s case enemies in Russia’s and that we were going to no , 17 secondslonger we weren’t going to compete against them with nukes or the space race we were going to do it by teaching them how to do corporate marketing this , 24 secondsbeing the 1990s um but I knew a lot of the the Cold War types who were a couple things.

They’re they’re they were there , 31 secondsto say, “Do not take your eyes off the Russians. They are not done. You don’t know them like I do.” And they seemed kind of uh unreasonable, but in a very , 40 secondsreasonable way. Like they they much had they seen, much had they done in the area around uh Mlelan, Virginia, , 47 secondsLangley, Virginia area. Um they’re like, “We are not done people.” Um, and clearly that was the same attitude of the mujahedin. They were hardly done. , 58 secondsThey were just getting started in late 1990, early 2000, which is where this Malaysia summit was. We have these two , 6 secondshijackers, the ones that winded up taking down the Pentagon. They landed at LAX on January 15th, day 2000, days , 13 secondsbefore they were photographed in Malaysia with these with exactly who you’re talking about.

These people who have been fighting for a long time, , 22 secondsinitially against Russia, then they were in Bosnia, then they they’ve been all over the world. These are seasoned warriors who were just picked for the , 30 secondsbiggest most outrageous plot that Osama bin Laden could come up with. He called it Operation Holy Tuesday. Khalichek Muhammad called it the plains operation. , 40 secondsAnd these two young Saudis who were rich kids, these were two little rich kids from prominent families in Mecca. both , 48 secondsof them, you know, wealthy kids from good families in Mecca and they were determined to take down America and they , 56 secondsand that that plan started the minute they landed at LAX and were dri picked up by an Eratrian who was a congregant , 6 secondsat the King Fahad Mosque which an FBI agent put in a declaration saying the entire mosque was paid for by King , 13 secondsFahad, his namesake.

You know, immediately at that time when they landed, the Saudis had put in this very , 21 secondsradical imam, Fahad Alumi. This guy was somebody who was screaming death to , 28 secondsAmerica all day long. He had tons of like if you are an infidel, you should die uh literature from that was printed up by the Saudis and put all over that , 37 secondsmosque. So the idea that the first place that these two hijackers went was to be picked up by a congregant from the mosque, driven directly to the mosque, , 46 secondsand this is how they got their start in California. The mosque was the one that hooked them up with the plane lessons, with their licenses, with their shipbox car. They parked at Dallasos airport.

, 56 secondsEverything that they did, their roots in what took place on Tuesday, September 11th, happened right here in California , 6 secondsin a very fancy little suburban place called Culver City. This mosque takes up a whole block. And every time I drive by , 14 secondsthis mosque now, I’m like, I cannot believe this that there is proof now that this plot was funded. I mean, look, , 23 secondsit was put it was launched into place by very high ranking people. It would be the same as if we went to Saudi Arabia and you had George W. Bush and Dick , 32 secondsCheney set up a church and all of the sudden there’s all kinds of American terrorists that are working out of this church. We would have a problem with that, I think, as Americans.

, 41 secondsNow, you are extremely knowledgeable in how the government works and how law enforcement works. Um, you know, I get the sense you have an an idea of how , 50 secondscounter intelligence works. Generally, spicy. , 52 secondsI mean, generally, very generally, not not like you do. Yep. , 57 secondsAre you familiar with how the Chinese and the Saudis would handle somebody else from another country coming in with a different church at all. Let’s not , 6 secondseven get to where what else they’re going to say. , 9 secondsDo you think that would raise some hackles? , 12 secondsI I think it might, but here it was celebrated as you mentioned. You know, you don’t only have churchials. , 18 secondsWe had these guys coming in going, “Oh, and we hate you and we hate you.

You should die. If you are a Christian or a Jew, you should die. , 28 secondsYou should die.” It literally is printed in in propaganda in the church. It would be like you go to, you know, Sunday mass on Handover Street and my favorite , 36 secondschurch, St. Leonard, and I pick up a brochure that says everyone who’s not Catholic should die. I would be alarmed by that, but nobody apparently was. , 43 secondsI mean, nobody apparently was. Um these guys were absolutely like yes you should all die and we have religious freedom in , 51 secondsthe United States which is great which is we are both from the New England area. Uh you know uh my my family helped , 58 secondsto chart the area that they landed Plymouth you know where they landed the pilgrims on.

I’m pre-madeflower which I , 6 secondswould I never say right off the Mayflower. Yeah, Peter Peter Garland was pre-made flower, which I would if I ever got invited to , 13 secondsany place in Backbay, Boston, I would totally lord lord over those people, but never gets brought up. [laughter] But we, you know, we instituted uh, you , 22 secondsknow, religious freedom so that we could be nuts and we could have our nutty uh, religious beliefs away from the more mainstream ones in England and the , 30 secondsNetherlands and whatnot. But but this went well beyond that. Well beyond that. , 35 secondsWell beyond that. But These two guys show up in LA and they’re like, “What the actual hell?” You can you imagine?

, 42 secondsThese are guys have been fighting for the Mujahedin in in the most, you know, war torn regions of the world and suddenly they show up and and and by the , 50 secondsway, they’re also into Wahhabiism. So these are not people who are used to women walking around Scant Lake. They are certainly not used to, you know, Los , 58 secondsAngeles culture. They’re completely out of place. They don’t know what to do. , 2 secondsAnd the imam says, “Guess what? I have a guy that can help you out. He just happens to be a Saudi intelligence officer, but he also has a much , 10 secondsfriendlier area for you guys that you might fit in a little bit more. There’s another mosque also funded by the Saudis , 17 secondswhere the American al-Qaeda, the very famous one that was taken out by a drone strike used to attend.

So now we have a we have a where was that? Just so we know. So you , 26 secondshave in San Diego Calip and so Culver City, these guys get their start. They hang out at the King Fahad Mosque. Just for , 33 secondsthe people that are not from Los Angeles, Culver City is a suburb of Los Angeles, right? , 38 secondsIt’s not really a suburb. You know, Los Angeles is such a sprawl. It’s giant sprawl. So, the people It’s an My point is it’s in LA, but there’s another one in San Die. , 46 secondsIt’s an LA nice neighborhood. Yes. So, LA and then two hours away is San Diego. , 52 secondsAnd that’s where they end up. And this and they end up initially in the care of we now know is a Saudi intelligence , 1 secondagent.

His name is Omar Albayami. He too had been sent to Southern California according to this lawsuit and the , 9 secondsdiscovery that has recently become declassified to set up a cell. And they called them I mean the Saudis have a word for it. They call it propagandists. , 18 secondsLike these are guys who are here specifically to spread radical Islam. , 22 secondsThat’s their job. They’re here like it’s their job and they do get paid for it. That is their job. , 28 secondsSo I want to spook explain this. Um please. Now, now Spook’s playing it for us. , 32 secondsThe the fed speak, as I call it. Give us the the feds speak, there’s a really bright line between , 39 secondsbeing a jerk with an opinion and being the representative of a country.

So, , 46 secondswhen we look at like Russian propaganda, there’s a lot of people running around with Russian talking points in our elections at any given time. And they , 55 secondsmeet a number of criteria. the the most benign of which is useful idiot which is a translation from the Russian that I , 2 secondsbelieve Stalin came up with to say somebody that is dumb and naturally goes along because they agree because we’ve , 10 secondscrafted this talking point that will be very divisive um we’ve we have crafted in such a way that I’m don’t have to pay , 18 secondsyou to go repeat it you’ll repeat it because you like it you you find it uh you find it attract ractive. So if I , 28 secondssay, well, all you know, the American government’s illegitimate because um the Indians never seated their land and therefore anything that happens in the United States is illegal by definition.

, 38 secondsThat’s a very Russian talking point. , 40 secondsVery radical. Uh you hear it a lot these days. There’s some people pushing this whole unse I heard something in Vermont here. Uh we’re on unseated Abanaki land. , 50 secondsWell, didn’t Billy Isish just get jammed up for saying that, you know, nothing is and she’s sitting in this like gazillion dollar mansion in Malibu on Indian land on native. That’s right. , 1 secondThat’s right. Hey, we can So, are you talking about your piece of property? , 4 secondsRight. So, that is classic Russian agit prop um where somebody might grab onto , 11 secondsit and go repeat it because it kind of makes sense to them. I’m like, “Yeah, it’s too there were people here before me and they got a rough deal.” And I , 19 secondsthink of myself as a good, high-minded person.

I want to be fair to people. So, part of my selfimage is I try to solve , 29 secondsinjustice. Um, and of course, I’ve been fed a talking point where I don’t actually have to go at real injustice, , 36 secondsuh, income inequality or lack of due process for my fellow neighbor or whatever. I can latch on to something , 43 secondsthat is totally abstract. Like 400 years ago there were Native Americans on this land and they’re not here anymore. I can , 50 secondslatch on to that. I can I can virtue signal and without any consequence to me. So I love it and I don’t even know , 58 secondswhy I love it because I could it would never occur to me that somebody crafted this so that I would spread it and jam , 6 secondsup all these political discussions.

It’s like, okay, yeah, it’s unseated Wabanaki land or whatever, but we have to fill the potholes. So, what’s the budget this this quarter? , 14 secondsYeah. , 15 secondsSo, that’s very Russian and you can be a a useful idiot if you just hear this and you repeat it. You’re not on task. , 23 secondsThat’s a a Fed term would be Yeah, but Bomi was on task. This guy was getting paid directly by the princess. , 31 secondsOh, yeah. I’m going So, you’ve skipped ahead five five letters. There’s a So then there’s, you know, agents who have been recruited up who are going to take, , 39 secondsyou know, they’ll do little favors for this, you know, this intelligence officer, but they’re not an intelligence officer.

This dude is an intelligence , 47 secondsofficer who gets his paycheck from the Saudi government and he set up 911. And when I read that stuff in the FBI , 55 secondsreports that they declassified, I went, “So the Saudis did it.” Now, they probably had help from the Russians. There were some Israelis on site who were entirely too happy to watch those towers come down at the exact minute they came down. So maybe they were , 9 secondsinvolved too. Um but and the Egyptians were there was a couple Egyptians rolling around here and it was a it was , 18 secondsa an international jihadist plot maybe among others. But one thing’s for damn certain based on Adabayumi’s behavior. , 27 secondsHe was an agent of that government and we continued our relationship with that government after 911.

We in fact , 34 secondswe can we acted like they were allies with him. Yes. , 39 secondsWill you continue our relationship with him? What people don’t realize is that the um Southern District in California filed a an indictment. So after 911 at , 48 secondslike many many many Saudis he just happened to decide to take a long trip to England right before 911 and so he , 56 secondshad moved from San Diego to Birmingham England. So he moved to the UK. , 2 secondsSo he had moved to the UK. You mean a country that has the intelligence service that gave birth more or less to , 10 secondsthe trade craft of ours? Because the CIA is really kind of a stepchild of MI6 and MI5. , 19 secondsI don’t know, but I know that’s where he ended up.

And I know that um the imam from the King Fihad Moss decided to go , 28 secondstake a vacation in Saudi Arabia in 2020 2001. We know that the bin Ladens were , 34 secondsallowed to fly out of the US before and after 9/11 on private chartered blitz. , 41 secondsWe know that there was a lot of shenanigans around the Saudis. And we know that this guy within days was named , 49 secondsas a suspect because of his his affiliation with the hijackers. They get the hijackers’s ID. They do a background check on him. Any reporter would have , 57 secondsdone this. They come up with an address in San Diego and they find out that the Saudi spy paid their rent. They found out that the Saudi spy helped them buy a , 5 secondscar.

They found out that the Saudi spy helped him enroll in in uh airplane flying lessons. So clearly this guy was involved. , 13 secondsAnd when you say spy, when you say spy, I mean spy, you mean somebody who works for the government. So correct, which means he , 21 secondshas a boss high up in in the Saudi government who directed that intelligence officer , 28 secondsto engage in a conspiracy to bomb the United States. thus to buy flight lessons, to pay for apartments, to , 35 secondsobfuscate, to run, to destroy evidence, whatever. Spy stuff, classic spy stuff. , 41 secondsBut what we very rarely have in these circumstances, all of these things are blinded behind eight different layers. , 49 secondsThat’s how you do it because otherwise you’ll get caught.

Because if you know what normally happens, and I think this is what you’re on about, normally what , 57 secondshappens is if we tie that to your government, we’ll nuke you in the face because that is an assault on the United , 4 secondsStates. So basically 25 years ago, the Saudi government attacked the United States of America in , 13 secondsand pulled off the most successful assault on this country since Pearl Harbor. And nobody declared war on them. , 21 secondsAnd pretty much we covered it up, which is the worst part, which brings us to our story because the FBI indicted this guy in California. , 31 secondsThere was an indictment because he lied on his immigration paperwork. We know he had a no-show job at a Saudi owned company as an accountant.

[snorts] And , 40 secondshow do we know that? Because the 9/11 families proved it in this lawsuit. The direct quote in my story from the , 47 secondsfederal judge overseeing this lawsuit in New York City’s Southern District is number one, we need to know what the hell were they doing in LA, and I’m , 54 secondsobviously paraphrasing. Number two, if you expect us to believe as Americans that this guy was an accountant at this , 3 secondsno-show job at a Saudi civil, you know, um aviation company, it it it stretches credibility that he would just happen to pay the bills for these Saudi hijackers. , 14 secondsIt’s ridiculous. So right now where it stands is at the very least hopefully we are going to hear this discovery in open , 22 secondscourt thanks to the great lawyers who have fought when I say tooth and nail , 29 secondstooth and nail against our own justice department to find this evidence.

And that’s part of it that I think people should find enraging. It’s enraging. , 38 secondsWhen I wrote my Boston Marathon book, you know, I was apopleleptic that Congress issued subpoenas to the FBI to , 47 secondsask questions about about the FBI’s relationship to Tam and I, the older dead brother. They didn’t show up. The , 54 secondsFBI can get away with just ignoring a congressional subpoena. And this is a matter of public record. Go back and look at C-SPAN. When you have Mike McCall, who people would argue is a , 3 secondsright-wing nut from Texas, and you have Bill Keading, who’s a very progressive liberal from Massachusetts, and the two of them are on the same page screaming , 12 secondsand yelling about the FBI blowing them off.

And the FBI, in the words of Michael McCall, this information does not belong to the FBI. It belongs to the , 21 secondsAmerican people. In the words of Bill Keading, Bill Keading, if you recall, and many other lawmakers went to Russia, , 28 secondswas Stephen Seagal the actor where they came back from that trip saying they got more information from the FSB about the , 37 secondsBoston Marathon bombers than they got from their own FBI. That’s a startling statement when you given the current political climate. And that wasn’t that , 44 secondslong ago. It was 2013. right now going going to play footsie with the FSB is an , 51 secondsinteresting political choice. Um, speaking of, you know, getting But when the FBI blows you off and lies about their circumstances and their relationship with the Boston Marathon bombing, it is abs It seems absurd.

, 2 secondsYou’re going to Dagistan with Steven Seagal. Come on. Like right there, it’s like this is this is this a a comedy? It , 11 secondssounds like something you would read in The Onion, but it was reality because the FBI blew off Congress. That should not be allowed. The FBI blew off these families. That should not be allowed. , 21 secondsThe FBI literally hid this information that we’re talking about with this Saudi intelligence officer, Wyoming. They , 28 secondsburied an indictment. That indictment got sealed and buried until it was unsealed in July of 2024. Why? Why did , 36 secondsthey let this guy walk? We’re not the only ones asking the Parliament. And this is how I got on to the story.

The UK Parliament is like, “This is an , 44 secondsoutrage that the FBI burned Scotland Yard in the way that they did.” And I’ll let you explain it because this is your world. How How significant do you see , 52 secondsthat when you see the UK Parliament censor the FBI for lying to its investigators? This is akin to the United States Congress saying Scotland Yard screwed them over publicly in demanding answers. , 9 secondsSo, let’s see if I can get this on on stage here. So, it was 8 8 September 2025. , 17 secondsUm, the the British Parliament started talking smack about the FBI. , 26 secondsUm, even though, you know, I I have a few questions for him here. um where you , 34 secondsknow they have you know they have really good intelligence and law enforcement as well better than ours in a lot of cases , 42 secondsthey they have a lot of intel about uh the Saudis right um you know I haven’t read this from from parliament yet I I , 51 secondsforget exactly what their their angle was that you’re saying that they were saying that the FBI was being obstructive correct , 58 secondscorrect so uh so the FBI as they they picked up Baomi in um Birmingham, England.

They were questioning him as , 6 secondsthe FBI executed a search warrant at his house. What was not shared with Scotland Yard and those investigators was what , 15 secondswas found. There’s a trove of evidence directly linking this Saudi spy to the , 22 secondsattack on 911, including a welcome dinner he had with the hijackers after he paid their rent. The very same day that he put up the 10 grand to get them , 31 secondsinto the apartment because they don’t have an ID, they don’t have a job, they don’t have anything. And the spy put up the, you know, cosign their lease. Then , 38 secondsthat day, he has a welcome dinner for them with some Saudi officials and the imam from the San Diego mosque.

that , 45 secondssame night. There’s a video of it which obviously he needed to send back to his bosses. See, I’m taking care of the hijackers. , 53 secondsOkay. So, in counter intelligence, you may be dealing with somebody who is a second generation sleeper. Their their family may have come over here from Russia in the 40s or the 60s or whatever and they have been raised a certain way , 8 secondsto do certain things. Uh but then they go on to train some other people who go on and take these actions. So when you’re you’re in counter intelligence, , 16 secondsyou’re going to look at what this person’s doing and you’re going to try and figure out what their what their goal is. You attribute their actions , 23 secondsmaybe to the uh the initiatives of some foreign power to see is this the Chinese trying to get one over on us?

Is this , 32 secondsRussian or is it something else? Or is this person gone rogue? It these things can be really super subtle. This is not , 40 secondsreally super subtle. This is a Saudi guy who work for the government who paid for this. Like this information , 48 secondsis as easy to acquire and analyze as it gets. We know the nationality. , 56 secondsWe know who. , 57 secondsWe know what they did and we know why they did it. And they blew up New York , 4 secondsand they blew up the Pentagon. So why is it taking us 25 years? , 10 secondsWhy did they hide this? This guy had a sketch which had a very complicated mathematical equation because he was an , 17 secondsaviation guy that showed the don’t ask me I don’t want to be misqued but it was but experts say they took a look at the , 25 secondssketch and said this is this guy calculating how fast the flight 77 has to be flying to hit the Pentagon at the , 33 secondsexact right speed at the exact right time.

So these calculations were very clearly linked to ex it literally said , 40 seconds77 on it. Flight 77 which was the hijack flight that these knuckleheads took from , 46 secondsDallas. And don’t even get me started on the on the intelligence failures that took place. Not only did the Malaysians , 53 secondssend us video of these two hijackers saying, “Hey, these guys were being treated like celebrities at the al-Qaeda meeting spot where they had like, you , 2 secondsknow, uh it was like a resort. They had a a vacation, al-Qaeda vacation, where they plotted 911, right? And then these guys are sent to Southern California. , 12 secondsThey’re taking lessons. They’re so dumb they can’t pass the lesson.

So they they do not become they do not become pilots. , 18 secondsThey become what they call muscle hijackers. These are the guys that pulls out the box cutters. And we know that Yep. Uh we know that on Flight 77 it was , 27 secondsjust happened to be piloted by a very wellrespected, highly decorated Air Force captain who struggled with the , 35 secondshijackers for control of the flight and and very likely died in the cockpit before it hurled into the Pentagon. Uh at least that’s the story his wife was , 43 secondstold by Air Force officials. But in the end, you know, they had these they had intel on these guys. They didn’t kill , 51 secondstheir visas. So right away we had problems. But on the morning of September 11th, there’s two brothers, two hijacker brothers.

There’s the pilot and there’s two other idiots. The two brothers, one of them didn’t have a photo ID. A customer service rep said, , 7 seconds”Hey, uh, this guy, we should probably take a second. Look, he doesn’t have an ID.” They let him through at the train at the screening, which was of course , 16 secondsobviously not TSA at the time, but they were screening. They set off the metal detectors because obviously they had box cutters on them. They were also wanded , 24 secondsand waved through. There was so many opportunities to stop these guys that you have to wonder like what is the FBI’s endgame by not sharing this , 32 secondsinformation about Aliomi? That’s what’s that’s your world. Like why would they stonewall in this?

, 41 secondsSo I’m I’m going to throw up a a paragraph here from the um from the thing from UK Parliament which was , 49 secondsSeptember of last year. So this is David This is this is recent. This is like was this is new information. Everything , 56 secondsabout biomime that we’re talking about no one knew until like six months few months ago. Exactly. , 3 secondsYesterday’s edition of the Sunday Times revealed that in the aftermath of the 911 of 911, the Metropolitan Police were forced to release Omar Albayumi, who is , 12 secondsbelieved to be a Saudi intelligence agent accused of supporting the hijackers because because the FBI withheld evidence that is explosive already. , 23 secondsThat’s a very strong statement from members of the legislature in England, is it not?

Or am I misreading this? , 30 secondsThis feels like it’s a pretty strong statement. punching uh America’s number one most important law enforcement , 37 secondsagency in the face is a big deal for our uh our allies. Yes. , 43 secondsAnd then by the way, Richard Blumenthal and John Cornin, I love a bipartisan matchup, right? Both of them are now demanding answers from Cash Patel who’s , 52 secondsbeen blowing them off. So there’s a letter from Blumenthal and Cornin from the Senate Intelligence Committee. Like what the hell? But how did they find out? They found out from Parliament, not from the FBI. And the FBI has steadfastly blown them off, too. , 6 secondsSo, I want to read through this and some people listen to this podcast.

So, uh, just for the rest of this, arrested in Birmingham 10 days after 9/11, Albayumi , 15 secondswas taken to London to be interrogated by Met counterterror officers. The FBI declined to provide those officers with , 23 secondsvital evidence of Albaumi’s involvement in 911. The evidence included a handdrawn aircraft diagram, trajectory , 31 secondscalculations matching the Pentagon attack, as you said, and an address book with the attacker’s code name, a code name that Bin Laden himself did not , 40 secondsdisclose until a year later. The FBI’s refusal to disclose this evidence prevented Albaumi’s extradition to the United States. , 48 secondsFBI records show that in 1999, Alumi met two officials from the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs.

Those officials were , 56 secondsassessed to be part of a network of individuals connected with the facilitation of two 9/11 attackers. A separate 2017 assessment by the FBI’s Arabic specialist concluded that Mr. , 7 secondsAlbayumi was a co-op of the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency, which is its Secret Service. A full , 15 secondsinvestigation by the Intelligence and Security Committee is needed. It must investigate why the FBI clearly invoed , 23 secondsextraditing Mr. Alumi and exactly what the involvement was of the Saudi government, in particular their Ministry of Islamic Affairs and their Secret , 31 secondsService. As the minister said, it is nearly 25 years since 9/11. In that time, we have extradited many innocent , 38 secondspeople to America.

But we failed to extradite someone who deserved to be sent over there. We need to get to the bottom of this in part so we do not see , 45 secondsthis terrible atrocity happen again. So, thumpity thump thump. That is the Brits throwing us under the bus, particularly , 55 secondsthe FBI. But of course, they have secret services as well that keep track of these things , 2 secondsand they’re probably in possession of a couple of morsels of information. But but six months ago or so, they come out , 11 secondsin parliament and go, “Hold on, the FBI covered up 911.” I mean, that is that’s huge. I and this is why you bring you , 20 secondssuddenly bringing this uh to everyone’s attention a few days ago.

I’m like what’s this? What’s going on here? , 30 secondsYou know um but you know and I missed this from UK Parliament. There’s so much going on these days. But six months ago, , 38 secondsall of the sudden the Brits start uh pointing a super soaker filled with cat pee at us and [laughter] 911 is your fault. Like that’s real. , 49 secondsIt’s been 25 years. That’s pretty interesting, Michelle, isn’t it? , 53 secondsOh, well, that’s the part I’m hoping you can explain to me because why now? Listen, the 911 family is grateful that it happened because the because the information that we got from Scotland Yard is what provoked the federal judge in this lawsuit that they , 8 secondsit’s it’s unfathomable to me as somebody who watch who went to countless funerals for friends and wrote stories about the , 17 secondsthousands of kids left orphaned who are now adults and watched what’s going on at Gitmo.

If anything, the very rare , 24 secondsthings that take place at Guantanamo Bay these days when I I pay attention because I lost friends. Like the whole country should be outraged by this. , 33 secondsThere is a a glaring cover up that’s going on and who are we protecting and , 40 secondswhy why would a guy like this a nobody spy? And now I mean you find out that at the time what do you mean by that? Let’s just , 48 secondsunpack that when you say why would they protect a nobody spy? , 52 secondsWell, okay, that’s the question. On paper, I wouldn’t say he’s not nobody. He We’re talking about somebody who was a an operational uh you know, an intelligence officer uh in the most successful covert , 7 secondsoperation in espionage history.

I mean, right up there. I mean, he managed to uh , 14 secondshe he was from a country that was demonstrabably weaker in every sense, including including their secret , 22 secondsservice. They should not have the ability to overwhelm FBI counter intelligence in the CIA, especially when , 30 secondsput together with France’s DGSSE, Mhm. , 34 secondsSpain’s CNI, the aforementioned MI6, as in our our partners , 41 secondsshould be all over jerks like this. And then there’s the our own CIA should know when something’s coming from overseas. , 50 secondsAnd the FBI should be Definitely, you know, if FBI counter intelligence is supposed to track um, , 59 secondsyou know, covert operations, much less terrorism on our soil.

We’re talking about guys, they were not in the , 7 secondsbasement of a Hallmark card shop in Topeka, Kansas, planning this. They were , 14 secondsin Los Angeles at a gigantic mosque that was funded directly by the Saudi king. , 21 secondsand they were as loud about it as possible. And yet they were allowed to run around. Nobody caught this. You , 29 secondsknow, they got driver’s licenses. They got, you know, they went to pilot school. , 34 secondsThey took English classes. But worse, the two hijackers lived with a longtime paid FBI informant, cenamed Muppet. , 44 secondsWait, wait, what? They That’s right. I read the story. , 48 secondsLived with the FBI. They lived with the Fed informant, right?

Like what what is happening? And , 56 secondsthen that and then that FBI agent who was the handler for Muppet is now uncooperative and you’re like what it and by the way , 4 secondsOkay. No, we’re No, we got to slow this down. We slow this down for everybody. , 9 secondsYep. Because my my string wall brain now is bouncing. , 13 secondsSo we got to break it down for everybody. So, you know, I because I I sat there in the aftermath of 9/11 and , 21 secondswatched Condles Rice go. Nobody imagined airplanes as weapons. I you know what I did in Washington DC? I wrote scenarios , 29 secondsof potential future threats. That’s what I did. , 33 secondsYou You know what people did in my business? They wrote scenarios of people running planes into buildings.

That’s , 42 secondsit’s filled with explosive gasoline or whatever else you want. We fire missiles off of planes all the time. Why not just use the plane as a missile? Oh, wait. , 49 secondsThat’s called kamicazi. I mean, we The idea of using a plane as a weapon being unheard of. I’m sitting there listening and they go, “Oh, I never thought of , 57 secondsusing a plane as a weapon. You’ve never seen a World War II film with the Japanese ever.” Okay. So, that was that was gaslighting. It wasn’t just stupid. , 7 secondsIt was knowingly psychologically abusive. , 10 secondsThat level of stupid of going, “Yeah, no. We just didn’t know that they’d used planes. No one No one knew. It was a failure of imagination.

, 18 secondsBut in reality, the two guys who were under the direct toutelage of a Saudi intelligence , 26 secondsofficer who was able, we know this from the declassified files, was able to walk in and out of the consulate. You know, , 33 secondsone of the the main things a country’s security service is going to do is they’re going to monitor the doors at all the embassies and consulates. You , 41 secondsknow why, Michelle? Because we don’t want our who work at the FBI or the Pentagon who have some form of , 50 secondscrisis or a drug problem or gambling problem or whatever. We don’t want them to be what’s known as a walk-in where they walk in the front door of an , 58 secondsembassy and go, “Hey, I got I got a copy of that report in my apartment.

You want to see?” Because they do that. They we , 5 secondsdo know that they had footage of Biomi going into the Saudi consulate which just happened to be a couple of blocks , 13 secondsaway from the FBI field office for Los Angeles which in a startling coincidence but they he walked right in. , 22 secondsWe they have video of it. They were really watching this guy. They were watching this guy. They knew this guy. , 29 secondsThey knew the imam. So they had cases open on these guys. Why let him go? They indicted him. Why let him go? Why seal , 36 secondsthe indictment? That’s the part that doesn’t make sense to me. , 39 secondsSo, there’s there’s what’s known as official cover and there’s nonofficial cover.

, 44 secondsOfficial cover is when you work at the embassy and but you’re really an intelligence officer. Happens all the time. Um, you know, uh, you know, dirty , 52 secondssecret, uh, many people who are, uh, placed in American embassies abroad really work for the CIA. Many other , 59 secondscountries like Russia, basically nobody in the embassy isn’t an intelligence officer of some form, right? , 7 secondsWell, the imam had a job at the embassy. So, we know that. Yeah. , 11 secondsThe King Fahad Mosque imam also had diplomatic immunity from the embassy. His embassy. , 16 secondsAnd you’re telling me it’s two blocks from the FBI field office. Correct. , 25 secondsSo to recap the recap of the recap.

So you’ve got a Saudi intelligence officer who is well known by everybody to really , 34 secondsbe part of the government and meanwhile he’s setting up this terrorism and what what is it you said allegedly. Yep. , 39 secondsAllegedly. Then then one of the attackers gets to walk into a US airport without an ID at all. , 46 secondsHe didn’t bring his ID, but he did bring his box cutter. And it was before the TSA, but still they didn’t just let they still had metal detectors in in 2001, right? , 56 secondsYep. , 57 secondsSo he somehow gets in with a huge chunk of metal and all these guys who barely know how to fly planes who are directly , 4 secondsunder the opices of the Saudi government walking.

, 8 secondsWell, I can I can definitely see those two hijackers. I can connect them directly. , 12 secondsGot it. And then we turned around and we attacked Afghanistan. , 18 secondsAnd then we attacked Iraq based on completely fraudulent intelligence. And everything we learn about it, it’s more , 26 secondsand more int fraudulent than last we thought. I’ve done I’ve done videos on this channel about the now now declassified. This is now declassified. , 35 secondsYou can see what was top secret in 2001 and 2002. , 40 secondsnot everything, but the the reports from the CIA and um and component and other , 49 secondsagencies that worked with them that the the excuses they gave to say that Iraq was a threat.

When you read the actual , 58 secondsdocuments, they weren’t even bothering to lie. They they it was they did not really think that Saddam Hussein had , 6 secondsweapons of mass destruction. They’ve now declassified this. They said it was a switcheroo. They told us, “Oh, he’s got , 13 secondsweapons.” And then in their documents behind the scenes, it says he wants weapons. There’s a difference between me , 21 secondsbeing hungry at noon and wanting a ham sandwich and having a ham sandwich. Huge difference. If I have one, I can eat , 28 secondsone. If I would merely want one, I can’t eat the ham sandwich, and I would still be hungry. Materially different situations. the kind of thing that , 36 secondsintelligence analysts are paid to to discern.

So we were told the American people they have weapons. We now look at , 44 secondstheir documents and it says they he wanted weapons. That’s different than having weapons. So we so we weren’t just , 51 secondsthey didn’t just us. Then they didn’t just lie to us. They lied to us , 57 secondswith a level of cynicism that is hard to calculate. , 3 secondsSo, which is why I think people have a hard time understanding this. I mean, even now, look, what’s crazy is the princess , 10 secondswho was paying this spy we’ve been talking about, biom, she was the wife of the Saudi ambassador who just happens to , 18 secondsbe all over the Epstein files. So, it’s just like it’s these what a shocker. So it’s like these same , 26 secondsplayers like what you always say these these again it’s like the same people keep showing up in the most , 33 secondsunlikely of places and whenever there’s something where you know the US government is trying to stonewall to me I don’t know how you look , 42 secondsI want you to slow down someone in the face and say we’re not going to help you with this lawsuit and here’s why money I just don’t understand , 50 secondsit like I don’t understand how you could be in every administration has done it.

, 55 secondsBush Obama was the worst because he actually vetoed JASTA which allowed the lawsuit to go first go forward in the , 3 secondsfirst place. And I’ll let you explain JASTA. , 6 secondsSo I I want to call you back to the the Saudi um ambassador or some form of , 15 secondsofficial. So the the U the ambassador to the uh United States at that time was , 23 secondsand I know I’m mangling everybody’s name so I apologize in advance but Bill Hal right so he is the guy who’s now showed , 30 secondsup in the Epstein files his his wife the princess and do not ask me for her name she it’s in the story lag.com , 39 secondsshe was providing the payments they’re not even hiding so if I write you a check Eric to blow up you know Mark Aragosa’s firehouse that I’m sitting in , 47 secondsright now.

There’s a paper trail. That’s a paper trail. We have a paper trail directly from from very high ranking Saudi diplomat. , 56 secondsThat would be called obvious. That would be called easy to get. But what are you? , 2 secondsBut you just said that the woman writing the checks for 911 is related to a guy in the Epstein files. , 12 secondsCorrect. Did I get that right? I think so. Huh? , 18 secondsSo why has this taken We just happened to have a lot of Exactly. This guy has a ton of connections all over the world. You , 26 secondsknow, we all watched. We I really was shocked when, you know, every administration, we know Bush shut it down because he ordered the release of this Saudi spy. , 37 secondsPeople expected more for Obama.

Yay, he’s going to be on the side of the 911 families. Nope. Quite the opposite. , 43 secondsThere was the justice against sponsors of foreign terrorism as a act that was uh passed by Congress in 2017 and , 52 secondspromptly vetoed by President Obama at that time who said this is going to complicate relationship with the Saudis. , 59 secondsFrankly, I think a lot of us who were there at ground zero were like, who gives a if it complicates our relationship with the Saudis? Let’s side with the dead and the families and the , 7 secondsand the friends that we lost. But no, that wasn’t the case. Luckily, Congress overrode his veto. Then we have Biden. , 15 secondsAnd Biden did the right thing by releasing the so-called 28 pages, which you know are a lot more than 28 pages because you followed that fantastic Twitter thread that everyone should , 23 secondsread.

So, at least Biden declassified some of this intelligence that we’ve had , 31 secondsthe Bush administration bury, the Obama administration bury, Biden released some of it. Then you think Trump is gonna come in in his first term and say, “We’re gonna side with New York 100%. , 42 secondsI’m a New Yorker. I was there. I love these 911 families. I love the military.” I mean, think about how many soldiers have died since. And these wars you just brought up. Absolutely. We’re , 50 secondsgoing to make sure that everything gets declassified. Quite the opposite. , 53 secondsInstead, in November 2025, he invites the prince, which pissed off these families who protested with that wanted poster that’s in my story about wanted Omar Albayami was from a protest from these 91 11 families who were like, how , 7 secondsare we inviting these people to the White House?

And then Trump was asked, well, what about this? What about Jamal , 15 secondsKajigi? And he says, things happen. And that’s the attitude that every administration has had towards the , 22 secondsfamilies of the 2,977 people who perished in these attacks. , 27 secondsAnd to me, that’s astonishing and should be outrageous. And everyone in this country needs to rise up in the way that we rose up when we saw police brutality. , 36 secondsThis is a different sort of brutality. , 37 secondsThis is brutality against our intelligence. And it it is a a complete like you said super soaker to the faces , 46 secondsof the families of the dead and and to me it’s unconscionable and really as a nation we need to rise up and fight back , 54 secondsagainst every administration the justice department and it’s all of them.

And what does it all come down to? The , 2 secondspowerful. And that’s why the Epstein files disclosure. That’s why I applaud these bipartisan lawmakers who were like, “No, Cash Patel, give us the truth , 10 secondson the on 911.” No, Justice Department, we want all of the Epstein files. It’s all related because we’re protecting the powerful. , 19 secondsAh, and that’s where you please come in and and George W. Bush was also the the you know, he it was his administration and , 28 secondsit was Alberto Gonzalez was attorney general by the time this happened. , 32 secondsThey’re the ones who they actually had indictment of Jeffrey Epstein. , 38 secondsUh long time he’s doing two things. He’s sex trafficking children all over the place, but he’s also setting up for the destruction of the American banking system through the the mortgage market , 47 secondsand derivatives from his positions in bare sterns.

He is he is joined by a a great number of financial traders to the , 55 secondsUnited States. But, you know, he’s a man for all seasons and and he pulls off all of these uh uh these offenses against , 3 secondshumanity in general and our country in in particular. And it’s the Bush administration, Bush 43, , 10 secondswho lets him go and allows him to plead to state charges. Disgusting. , 16 secondsSo, we’ve got someone tied into his network who funded 911. , 24 secondsCorrect. These are these are details that were that have never been put together. , 31 secondsSo, and and you and I are not looking forward to getting shot and thrown into a pond. We kind of both Let’s just both put it on the record.

I do drive an old shitbox police car, but it has breaks. I’ve got them checked. , 42 secondsYou know, I I sat like listen when Ro Connor and Tom Massie were like, “We’re not suicidal.” They did it in Jess, but it really is. It’s true. I mean, look , 50 secondswhat in Russia they’re not even going to bother locking you up. You know, that billionaire in the Epstein files just ended up uh in a pool of blood in his super luxury high-rise in Moscow, right? Some people just get depressed and stab themselves in the back three times with four kitchen knives. It happens. , 6 secondsIt happens. You know, it happens. It doesn’t happen to me. I’m a very happy girl, obviously. , 12 secondsWell, and I I think there is a convergence here.

I think it is not for nothing that in , 20 secondsSeptember of 2025, all of the sudden the Brits moved and they’re like, “Oh, uh, we need to talk about the, you know, you know, you know who covered this.” You know who covered that up? It’s the , 28 secondsFBI. Okay. Um, so it’s interesting. You have Cash Patel is not forthcoming um about everything people would like , 37 secondshim to be and he was blew off the Senate Intelligence Committee about this exact issue that we are talking about. , 45 secondsBut Patel is a very very important individual because he is not like everybody else. And the the people that , 52 secondsthey brought in at the top of the FBI were not part of the well-groomed group of senior executive service , 1 minute, 1 secondum law enforcement people that normally crawl to the top of the DOJ.

, 1 minute, 5 secondsThe usual suspects that are involved in every single story whose names we know very well, right? um and many who we don’t know as , 1 minute, 13 secondswell who are they are GS14s and 15s in DC. They are part of the senior executive service of the government that , 1 minute, 21 secondswe just don’t nobody knows about. But as as long as you have a certain um , 1 minute, 31 secondsselection process for leadership, you can get what you want out of these institutions. Now it’s it’s very , 1 minute, 39 secondsinteresting. there. Uh I was surprised to find out that uh there were British defense contractors who were allowed to , 1 minute, 47 secondshelp I think train senior executives from our intelligence services.

That would that always surprise me. It seemed like they’d be the kind of thing that we , 1 minute, 55 secondscould do on our own to form our own leadership. Why would the Brits want to be involved in that? And and who’s the first crew of the Epstein folks? Just , 2 minutes, 4 secondstotal left turn ADHD. Uh who who’s the first group of people to get arrested from the the Epstein files? It’s the , 2 minutes, 13 secondsthe only people. You mean the only people, let’s be clear, the only people to get arrested. No one in the United States have been arrested for the Epstein files. , 2 minutes, 20 secondsBut Norway, it’s not they’re not the only ones. It’s Norway as well. And they’ve been and they’ve been executing search warrants in France.

So they so , 2 minutes, 28 secondsthe search the arrest and search warrants go out in Britain, Norway, France and then then by the end of the , 2 minutes, 35 secondsweek we have destroyed Iran. [laughter] I mean this is wild times. So let’s not let’s not drive past , 2 minutes, 42 secondsand and the one Russian guy uh you know had a boat of suicidal tendencies. , 2 minutes, 48 secondsHe slipped and and fell into a a a vat of Palon tea after shooting himself three times. Yes. As or as I call it the , 2 minutes, 55 secondsRussian retirement plan. They don’t get AP, they get this. Um I mean, I don’t know. Something happens to you when you , 3 minutes, 4 secondsdescribe your yourself as um Gilen Maxwell’s soulmate.

I don’t know. You’re not going to end well. It’s just a thought here. Yeah. , 3 minutes, 12 secondsUh in the words of They Might Be Giants, you can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding. , 3 minutes, 17 secondsHow shock. You know what’s funny about that, too? That email was from a few weeks before 911 when Epstein and , 3 minutes, 24 secondsMaxwell were going to Moscow. Now, that’s just my ADHD aside, but I’m like, this still goes back to 01 911. They’re going to Russia. , 3 minutes, 33 secondsHuh? You noticed that, huh? , 3 minutes, 36 secondsI did indeed. Now that we’re saying it out loud, I just noticed it now. I’m like, “Oh, huh.” Yeah. So, it’s weird. Like, I I I came , 3 minutes, 43 secondsout in 2016, as we talked briefly about, you know, I I said, “Hey, everyone, you might want to learn a little bit about how Russian tradecraft works when it , 3 minutes, 50 secondscomes to spies.” And boy, the the American media got really angry.

They’re like, “That’s conspiracy theory. That’s , 3 minutes, 58 secondsmental illness. You’re not supposed to notice all these different people slipping away and going to Russia at different times.” , 4 minutes, 6 secondsOr notice that Jeffrey Epstein had a Saudi passport with a Saudi. , 4 minutes, 10 secondsThank you. That was issued by the Austrians. , 4 minutes, 14 secondsAnd and everybody is talking he’s a pedophile. Like that’s the least distinct thing about him. Like he’s he , 4 minutes, 21 secondsYes. Yes. He also raped children in his in his spare time. Yeah. Disgusting. Yep. , 4 minutes, 27 secondsBut he got he got an Austrian passport with a Saudi address on it. I mean , 4 minutes, 36 secondsthat that is stuff that you you you’ve written many books.

You’ve dealt with editors. Can you name a single book editor who would not kick that premise , 4 minutes, 44 secondsback and say not plausible, not believable? 100%. , 4 minutes, 48 secondsMost of the stuff I’m reading in the Epstein files is like this is cannot possibly be true. And then it is because I know you’ve written a bunch you’ve written a bunch of pilots. , 4 minutes, 59 secondsYou’ve you’ve written for TV. You’ve written for movies. You’ve you’ve done it. Any if it’s got words on a page, you’ve done it, right? , 5 minutes, 5 secondsYep. And this Epstein story would never pass muster with an an editor, with a producer, with, you know, a television , 5 minutes, 15 secondsproducer for a documentary.

this stuff is so beyond the scope of like humanity. It goes be it’s like it’s so inhumane that you can’t even believe it. , 5 minutes, 24 secondsAnd then you look 911 and say why would our own government hurt the 911 families and you’re like I can’t even wrap my , 5 minutes, 32 secondsbrain around this. I can’t there’s no amount of money in the world that would make me sell out my countrymen. There’s there’s nothing you could offer me. , 5 minutes, 40 secondsCorrect. Do you know Epstein called Trump a psychopath? And in direct reference to him bombing Iran, one of the emails is Epstein saying he could , 5 minutes, 49 secondspossibly bomb Iran or Syria because he’s a psychopath. Jeffrey Epstein put that in writing to I believe uh oh, George , 5 minutes, 57 secondsMitchell, the 911 commissioner for a minute, half a minute.

So George Mitchell showing up in the Epstein files all over the place. , 6 minutes, 6 secondsHe’s from Maine, right? , 6 minutes, 7 secondsYeah, he’s from Maine. They’re ripping his face off the buildings of Maine as we speak. Hold on. , 6 minutes, 12 secondsI could not believe it. George Mitchell was like a Boston hero because of his work in Ireland, right? And now you he turns out to be FC dirt. , 6 minutes, 20 secondsSay that again for his work in Ireland on the Troubles, right? , 6 minutes, 23 secondsOn the Troubles, which Jerry Adams, CIA informant. , 6 minutes, 28 secondsWhat a shocking coincidence. I still think that the Isabella Stewart Art Museum Heist was was pulled off by , 6 minutes, 36 secondsfederal entities to give Jerry Adams money as a bribe to become the CIA asset that we all know that he is now.

, 6 minutes, 44 secondsI mean, you know, the the Soviets crawled up into into Ireland in like 1920. That was one of I did not know that. , 6 minutes, 52 secondsOh, yeah. That’s Kremlin as all get out. , 6 minutes, 55 secondsSo, so you had George, so you had somebody who was tied up in the troubles was put in charge of the 9/11 commission. Did I hear that correctly? , 7 minutes, 6 secondsYep. For half a minute, George Mitchell was a 911 uh I think it was the vice director or the vice chair of the vice chair of the commission. For some reason, he bowed out of that position. , 7 minutes, 16 secondsBut George Mitchell and Epste go way back, way back. And now George Mitchell is, you know, I think there’s levels of , 7 minutes, 24 secondsepste is like pedo, then there’s perve, then there’s just general dirtag.

And I think Mitchell falls between perve and general dirt bag in the epste files from what I’ve read so far. , 7 minutes, 34 secondsAnd and chancellor of Queens University in Belfast. , 7 minutes, 39 secondsI did not know that. Did he get booted yet? And he was also he was chairman of DA Piper , 7 minutes, 48 secondsum a a white shoe law firm. Have you ever heard of DA Piper? , 7 minutes, 52 secondsI have. But why? I feel like I know this law firm very well for some reason. Well, Kla Harris’s husband. , 7 minutes, 59 secondsThat’s right. I mean California. That’s right. , 8 minutes, 2 secondsThey’re a major entertainment law firm there, but everything law firm. But they have another distinction in my world.

, 8 minutes, 9 secondsThey were the very first registrant in the foreign agent registration database which was designed for the Nazis and , 8 minutes, 17 secondsSoviets. Number two was TAS the Soviet telegraph agency. Number one registrant was DA Piper. Who did they represent? , 8 minutes, 29 secondsI don’t believe it’s out in the unclassified who they represented but they are the number one registrant in the the Farah database. 1938. The , 8 minutes, 38 secondsPharaoh was passed in 1938 to deal with Soviet and communist propaganda that was being spread throughout the United , 8 minutes, 46 secondsStates by the people that eventually ended up as the Nazi war machine and as well as the Soviets.

DA Piper was the , 8 minutes, 55 secondsnumber one registrant was an American company and he if you look at my house in Venice I am , 9 minutes, 2 secondstriangulated between DA Piper’s main branch Rand and that mosque. Right smack dab in the middle is where you find my , 9 minutes, 9 secondslittle dumpia studio apartment. But isn’t that interesting? Rand the mosque and DA Piper all here. , 9 minutes, 16 secondsHuh? How about that? I mean there’s all on the west side. , 9 minutes, 22 secondsThere’s a lot going on on the west side there. , 9 minutes, 25 secondsThousand Oaks over there. Yeah. Ever heard of Yuri Bezmanov? No. , 9 minutes, 29 secondsSoviet defector in the 1980s. You go on YouTube, go look up a video of Yuri Bez talking to the John Burch Society, the , 9 minutes, 38 secondsultrarightwing guys.

And he’s talking about he’s warning us about what the Russians are going to do over time. We will defeat you. And he was supposedly , 9 minutes, 47 secondshe was in this country because he was a a defector. He broke away from the the the terrible Soviet system and he was warning us of the evils of communism. , 9 minutes, 57 secondsEventually, he got kicked out. The that cover didn’t work any longer. But he there’s a there’s a very very arresting , 10 minutes, 6 secondsvideo of him talking about what we’re going to do is slowly demoralize your institutions. We’re going to break you down at the level of family, at the , 10 minutes, 14 secondslevel of your churches, at the level of business. We’re going to take away your beliefs in your in yourself.

We’re going to we’re going to corrode the the memory , 10 minutes, 22 secondsof your heroes. We’re going to distort your your historical understanding. This is going to it will take decade over decade. We’re trained for that. And in , 10 minutes, 30 secondsother words, if you go back to 1982, I think which is when this video was, and you look at everything that kind of happened up until the election of Donald , 10 minutes, 39 secondsTrump, which was where the Russian propaganda was being uh Russian style , 10 minutes, 46 secondspropaganda. It wasn’t just Russian nationals was Floridaid. It was everywhere. It’s one of the reasons I spoke up is like this stuff that was just so unmissable was was everywhere.

, 10 minutes, 57 secondsYuri Bzmanov 35 to 40 years before that said this is what we’re going to do and it’s going to take us decades but we’re , 11 minutes, 4 secondsgoing to slowly break you down and this is how we’re going to do it. And then it looks like someone did it. So, well, do you know who owned the Boston , 11 minutes, 13 secondsMarathon? The mo the Boston Marathon bombers got into the country on a tourist visa from Ankora, Turkey, which , 11 minutes, 21 secondsjust happened to be where Graham Fuller was the CIA station chief. They move into a home that was owned by a Russian , 11 minutes, 28 secondsdefector, who was Graham Fuller’s Russian studies professor. , 11 minutes, 33 secondsSo, that house in Cambridge, Massachusetts, was owned by a Russian defector who was teaching Russian at Harvard.

It just happened to be Graham , 11 minutes, 40 secondsFuller’s professor at Harvard University. So these remember Russia if you look at operation ghost stories that , 11 minutes, 47 secondsRussian long that was like the long game the f the Americans is based on that case those kids with denias Michelle I I was targeted by that guy. , 12 minutesYou’re kidding. , 12 minutesNo I had lunch with him. I s I sold his software products for a small period of time. Never exchanged any money but um Oh yeah. No, we’ve met that , 12 minutes, 9 secondsthe guy who own the house says deni Oh, you mean the braille guy. The operation ghost stories guy. Yeah, the operation ghost stories guy. , 12 minutes, 16 secondsSo the the um No, that guy was pretending to be Canadian.

This was to my great shame, which I told uh the FBI , 12 minutes, 24 secondsabout when they naturally wanted to talk to me down the line after he’d been deported. Um I sat down with with the , 12 minutes, 31 secondsfeds and they said, “All right, start at the top. What what do you want to say about this situation?” And I said, “I am so pissed.” Why are you pissed? I said, he never swore. , 12 minutes, 42 secondsHe said he was French Canadian. I’m from Vermont. I speak French. I speak Canadian French. , 12 minutes, 49 secondsHe didn’t he not one single, not one, not one sack, not one test. We would go back and forth, he and I, , 12 minutes, 57 secondsbetween English and French. His French was perfect.

His English was great. Um, he had a weird accent that eventually kind of got under my skin. And , 13 minutes, 4 secondseventually he just called too many times. He was just showing up in Washington DC a little too often. My , 13 minutes, 12 secondsunderstanding was he was getting a little close to the Clinton people at when um you know uh when he was operating. He was he was starting to get , 13 minutes, 21 secondsinto Hillary’s inner circle or something to that effect. , 13 minutes, 24 secondsWell, the Clinton Foundation and Harvard I mean of course they did. So that’s what they were that’s what they were going after in that case and they did it very successfully. They’ve they’ve , 13 minutes, 33 secondsinfiltrated the colleges.

They infiltrated the schools. Even when my book came out, they asked me to do a book signing, the Russians did, the Russian studies program or whatever it , 13 minutes, 42 secondswas at the Harvard club. Of course, I did it if it meant I was going to sell 150 books, which I did. But hey, , 13 minutes, 50 secondsthere was your So the so the Russians wanted to they hosted a book signing [applause] , 13 minutes, 58 secondsthat. Hey, they these guys always go at small business people and and they at first they don’t push nothing smaller than a broke ass writer. , 14 minutes, 8 secondsLet’s be clear. You need something. You need something. , 14 minutes, 12 secondsYou’re going to buy 150 books. Yes.

Now you’re going to Okay. Yeah, I’ll show up. Hey, I’ve been on I’ve been on Russia Today a couple times, right? So, , 14 minutes, 19 secondsI go on. Now, do I report these things in detail? But and and do I go on them anymore? No. No. We don’t get I got I , 14 minutes, 26 secondsgot sanctioned in 2022. the Russians and I we we know about each other now when we don’t get along. It’s good. But, you , 14 minutes, 33 secondsknow, 10 10 12 years ago, you know, I get a call from Russia today. Sure, I’ll go on. Yeah. And talk to another American about something that I’ve been , 14 minutes, 41 secondssaying anyhow. And then the way they would do recruitment of that sort would be they just see what you said and they say, “Do you want to say the thing you already said over here?

You said this on , 14 minutes, 50 secondssocial media. You wrote this on your blog. Do you want to go say this on our show?” I’ll be like, “Sure, it’s no problem. I’m I’m not taking any tasking there. And it’s , 14 minutes, 58 secondsinteresting. I might see how they do the handling of these folks. So, you deal with all Americans. I I was on twice and then then somebody named Yolena calls me. I’m like, “Nah, we’re not dealing , 15 minutes, 6 secondswith Elena. I’ll go on your thing.” But, um, you know, yeah, I don’t want to hang out at dinner. I’m not having I’m not having, you know, coffee on a Thursday with you , 15 minutes, 15 secondseither. I’ll just show up for the book signing. , 15 minutes, 17 secondsBut, but remember, you know, these these shows get booked a lot.

When your book comes out, you know, you have a PR guy that’s like, “Show up here, show up there, show up everywhere.” And of course you can, you know, you just , 15 minutes, 26 secondsBut they got a file on you. So they go, “You want to come to the book signing?” You’re like, “Sure, I’ll do the book signing.” Like, “Do you want to go for coffee?” , 15 minutes, 33 secondsCorrect. That’s what I say. [snorts] Uh, no. But somebody else might. And so, let’s say they know that there’s , 15 minutes, 40 secondssomething about you. Um, you really like redheads or you really really have always wanted to date an African person , 15 minutes, 49 secondsor something like that. And they they put that person in your path.

And then you go more in that direction. They go, “Well, would you do this for us and would you do that and what what about , 15 minutes, 57 secondsthe and next thing you know now you now you have a different relationship?” But that’s this is the classic. Okay. Now we’re talking about , 16 minutes, 6 secondswe’re talking about counter that’s we’re talking about recruitment. But look, we’re talking about but to get back to the the Saudi stuff , 16 minutes, 14 secondsthat you’ve been writing about, you know, when you’re talking about the recruitment of somebody. So you got a professor and maybe he’s from over here , 16 minutes, 21 secondsand maybe he does this but it’s not going to get he’s teaching literature.

, 16 minutes, 25 secondsNow he invites writers to hear. He he’s doing what we call spot and assess. , 16 minutes, 32 secondsHe’s he might be one part of this. He’s getting information. He’s going to hand this to Sergey who’s going under the name Jacob as part of his cover. And , 16 minutes, 40 secondsJacob’s going to use the information that that guy to go try and do this as part of a long range development plan of blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That is not what you’ve been writing about. , 16 minutes, 49 secondsWhat you’ve been writing about is a Saudi intelligence officer living in the middle of Los Angeles recruiting murderers to commit murder. Everyone knows about it. Everyone knew about it.

, 17 minutes, 1 secondThis is the easiest stuff in the counter inelligence world to figure out. There is no reason , 17 minutes, 8 secondsnot to know about it. There’s no reason that all these countries didn’t know about it. And yet 25 years later, we’re still getting bullshitted. , 17 minutes, 16 secondsSo what’s up, folks? , 17 minutes, 18 secondsYeah. Why are we getting bullshitted 25 years later about the Saudis, especially now where, you know, this week they were very critical of the strike in Iran, at , 17 minutes, 26 secondsleast publicly, you know, they they uh came out with their foreign ministry had a statement saying that they were going , 17 minutes, 33 secondsto protect uh their interests with whatever that took.

So, it did sound like there was a , 17 minutes, 40 secondsrelationship with the Trump administration and the Saudis, at least on the surface. Who knows what’s going on underneath that? So maybe this is the , 17 minutes, 48 secondschance now that the 911 families are finally going to get a little bit of justice. And and shout out to the to the US District Court Judge Daniels, Greg , 17 minutes, 56 secondsDaniels, who’s who’s looking at this and say and calling He’s the , 18 minutes, 6 secondsSaudis have been filing a flurry of documents to try to stop that from happening. But let’s all pray that hopefully this gets at least aired out , 18 minutes, 15 secondsin a courtroom in New York City in the Southern District which is filled with some of the best judges in the nation.

, 18 minutes, 23 secondsI wonder if we’re not at a at a real confluence for time here where all these things are happening at once. We’re taking apart the cartels. , 18 minutes, 33 secondsUm you know, Venezuelans are down, the Iranians are down. Uh, we’re isolating , 18 minutes, 41 secondsthe Chinese. Um, it’s funny, the North Koreans are finally very, very quiet. We, it looks , 18 minutes, 49 secondslike we have a way to get the Russians under under control. Meanwhile, we are exposing the psychopaths in our midst , 18 minutes, 57 secondsand we are exposing their relationship with the British royal family. And we are now looking at the networks of , 19 minutes, 5 secondselites that apparently have no problem with mass um abuse of our children in some of the nastiest ways.

This is all , 19 minutes, 14 secondshappening at the same time. Perhaps not on accident, right? I think you I think you can’t you , 19 minutes, 21 secondsknow you can’t discuss one of these things without starting to get into the others and you’ve made some connections here tonight that have never been made I , 19 minutes, 29 secondsdon’t think between the Epstein people and the 9/11 [clears throat] attacks. , 19 minutes, 34 secondsSo um I you know I think these guys work covertly although barely covertly in the sense that a lot of their operations are , 19 minutes, 41 secondsvery easy to pick up but they’re so powerful that people will then cover up after them. They will. There’s information that could be given out to , 19 minutes, 49 secondspeople that would solve the puzzle, but they are protected.

Somebody covers it up. And I think they also have the , 19 minutes, 58 secondsability to create very bombastic events that we are stuck talking about whether it’s you know they knock over , 20 minutes, 7 secondsuh these buildings or you know in in Midtown Man or lower Manhattan or they shoot up a school in Connecticut , 20 minutes, 18 secondsor or a number of things. I we we I forget how much of this has gone gone public, but when you look at the George , 20 minutes, 26 secondsFloyd, you know, that wasn’t any more organic in in how it it happened. It was not it was not an accident. It doesn’t , 20 minutes, 34 secondsseem anyhow. I don’t know how much is going to be out there how quick. But until you take apart that network that can create these events [snorts] all , 20 minutes, 42 secondsover the place, maybe it’s not worth having the discussion.

But if you’re going to tear apart all the international uh money laundereries and , 20 minutes, 49 secondsyou’re going to you’re going to you’re going to tear apart the you know countries like Iran that have huge , 20 minutes, 56 secondscapacity for covert operations. They they have spy networks. They have sleeper cells. They have all this stuff. , 21 minutes, 3 secondsWell, not anymore. They can’t reach them. They can’t send money to them. , 21 minutes, 6 secondsThat’s done now. maybe you can’t visit some of these really heavy subjects until you take this these other things , 21 minutes, 14 secondsapart and per you know and were some of the people involved were they aware of that were past FBI , 21 minutes, 21 secondsdirectors aware that it was so complicated that if you’re the one that comes out and just starts talking about , 21 minutes, 28 secondsthis that you know what’s going to happen is you’re going to get smashed you’re going to get destroyed and the truth isn’t going to come out so then , 21 minutes, 36 secondswhere are where is anybody you’re screwed as an individual and nobody’s any better off, so why destroy yourself?

, 21 minutes, 45 secondsWell, there’s a couple of FBI agents that deserve a lot of credit. They’re named in my story. They were they were working on Operation Encore, and they’ve , 21 minutes, 52 secondsgiven public declarations on behalf of the 911 families, the 911 justice families, saying exactly what they , 22 minuteslearned and what was held from them. And I give people like that kudos because like you said, they could definitely be destroyed. These are two guys who , 22 minutes, 8 secondsdedicated their lives to law enforcement. They worked really hard to try to get to the bottom of 911 and they were stonewalled by their own justice , 22 minutes, 15 secondsdepartment and they said as much in declarations that are now part of the discovery in this case.

So there are people who are out there mounting the , 22 minutes, 22 secondsbrave fight and they deserve all the accolades in the world. , 22 minutes, 26 secondsMichelle, nobody knows that about these two FBI guys. Nobody. You’re the you’re the first across the line with that story. It’s incredibly important. , 22 minutes, 36 secondsYou’re this is new. It may not be new to you. I guarantee you it’s new to the audience that the F there’s two guys who came out on behalf of the families and , 22 minutes, 44 secondssaid our own FBI covered up key parts of this attack. , 22 minutes, 52 secondsThat’s not known to the public yet. , 22 minutes, 56 secondsAnd they and they actually, you know, said, look, this is what we know.

I think um and I’m sorry that I don’t have his name right in front of me, but he , 23 minutes, 5 secondstalked a lot about the mosque and how you know the FBI had a case on the mosque and they were watching the mosque and they knew that this guy was dangerous. They knew he was saying crazy , 23 minutes, 13 secondsthings. They knew he was trying to incite other people to recite crazy things and yet nobody took any action. , 23 minutes, 21 secondsWe we it’s a matter of public record. , 23 minutes, 23 secondsAnyone who read the great book Looming Tower knows John O’Neal has been had been thumping that drum for a long time. , 23 minutes, 30 secondsThe FBI agent who was on the ground for the first and we’re talking about the anniversary of the first World Trade Center bombing this week.

And you know, , 23 minutes, 39 secondshe’s been saying all along that al-Qaeda had the capacity to pull out something catastrophic and he was ignored. He quit his job and weirdly was the head of , 23 minutes, 48 secondssecurity at the World Trade Center Towers. He was two weeks into his new job when he perished. So, this is some crazy coincidences that are taking place, but there are definitely people. , 23 minutes, 58 secondsAnd so, you know, people say I’m critical of the FBI and the handling of the Boston Marathon. I am, but not everybody. We’re talking about the people at the very top who every time I , 24 minutes, 6 secondslook at any of these cases that I’ve written about, and I’ve written about a lot of them, it’s the people at the top, and it’s usually the same name or the , 24 minutes, 14 secondssame two or three names over and over and over again.

and people that y’all familiar with. I don’t need to get sued, but you know, these are people that , 24 minutes, 21 secondsthey’re always, even if you look at Jerry Adams, who was around Boston at that time, who signed up Whitey Bulier, , 24 minutes, 28 secondsthat same guy. Everywhere I look, Whitey Bulger, we have that guy. Jerry Adams, we have that guy. The Boston Marathon bombing, he was in charge of the FBI. , 24 minutes, 36 secondsEveryone’s going to figure out who it is. I don’t need to say it out loud, but you know the Russia gate, that guy, I I I’m shocked if I haven’t looked yet, , 24 minutes, 46 secondsbut you know, I’d love to know where he appears, if at all, in the Epstein files.

, 24 minutes, 52 secondsBut it’s the people at the very top that have stonewalled their own guys. Those are the ones that I’m talking about when I say that we should be critical. When , 24 minutes, 59 secondswe’re going to march for reform, any police reform, the reform should start at the at the highest levels of government in counterterrorism because , 25 minutes, 8 secondspeople die over and over and over again because of these counterterrorism failures. And 911 is the most glaring example, but the Boston Marathon bombing , 25 minutes, 15 secondsmistakes were made, relationships were [clears throat] covered up 100%. We know that the the uh Pulse nightclub shooter , 25 minutes, 23 secondsgave a shout out to the Boston Marathon bombers.

We know that the FBI had a file on them buying that guy buying ammunition. So over and over and over , 25 minutes, 30 secondsagain, these same people make mistakes and are never held accountable. And that’s what I I think these stories are important. We should ask the same , 25 minutes, 38 secondsquestion the parliament is asking. The UK parliament is asking the questions American people should be asking. What the actual f why are you stonewalling , 25 minutes, 48 secondsthe families? So you know when people go to when bad guys go to characterize these discussions they will talk about conspiracy theory and paranoia. , 26 minutes, 1 secondNow paranoia can be a real clinical thing where you become obsessed with the literal Greek term is um being , 26 minutes, 10 secondsmindful of the margins.

That’s what paranoia means in Greek. instead of focusing on what’s in front of you, you’re constantly focusing on on the , 26 minutes, 18 secondsoutside and that which is on the edge and maybe not as important as something something else. Um so when you say you , 26 minutes, 27 secondsknow all these all these law enforcement or intelligence same five names there’s a difference between paranoia and , 26 minutes, 35 secondsconspiracy theory where somebody who isn’t very knowledgeable necessarily has kind of an emotional angle of attack on , 26 minutes, 42 secondsthese things and they say they’re all out to get us. They they arrive at the conclusion. They arrive at the answer before they even understand the question , 26 minutes, 50 secondsthat’s being asked, which is they say someone out there is is out to get me.

And they they pick a , 26 minutes, 59 secondsfew three-letter agencies because they’ve heard of them. It’s the CIA. And you know that you look on you look online, you you’ll get some books that , 27 minutes, 7 secondsyou know many of and so this is historical knowledge and documentation. And any person who wants to do the work that I’ve done which is , 27 minutes, 15 secondsthe work it this work thousands of pages it’s work this is this is well documented this is not this is hardly , 27 minutes, 22 secondsparanoia it’s historical knowledge you know when when you create an expertise around the topic and because I write , 27 minutes, 29 secondsabout terrorism exclusively and I was there at the Boston Marathon bombing on Boilson Street I was there on 911 at ground zero I watched the aftermath I’ve , 27 minutes, 38 secondscovered the aftermath I have countless police sources that are guiding me in my reporting.

It’s not paranoia. It is work. It’s It’s doing the job. , 27 minutes, 47 secondsGod bless you. , 27 minutes, 48 secondsIt’s like for very little money, by the way. You know, so it’s not like I’m out there getting rich off of this. I’m just getting pissed off. , 27 minutes, 55 secondsIt’s work. , 27 minutes, 57 secondsWell, and and if you see a pattern of the same names appearing over and over again, it is only natural to go, “All right, we need to ask about this person. , 28 minutes, 6 secondsWhy are Bill Bar, William Bar, he’s been attorney general twice. , 28 minutes, 12 secondsFirst time he comes in, George HW Bush, and he shuts down an investigation , 28 minutes, 20 secondsinto the theft of promise software, which is the prosecutor’s management information system.

That was DOJ software that was there to join up the , 28 minutes, 29 secondsthe relational databases in the very early 80s for uh tax counter intelligence and criminal RICO organized crime prosecutions. , 28 minutes, 41 secondsAnd during the during the Reagan administration, Ed Me stops paying the bills for Innaw. They , 28 minutes, 49 secondsgo out of business and those assets have to be put up for sale. The uh the promise software is then stolen supposedly by Robert Maxwell, Gileen’s , 28 minutes, 58 secondsdad, who sells it to the the Russians and the Lafians and or whoever else. Um, and of of course, you know, around that , 29 minutes, 6 secondstime, um, this guy Jeffrey Epstein starts working with the Maxwell family.

, 29 minutes, 11 secondsIn 1991, Bill Barr comes in and shuts down two investigations. One into BCCI, which is , 29 minutes, 18 secondssupposedly a front for the CIA and whose money Jeffrey Epstein was probably running. And then he bir shuts down the , 29 minutes, 26 secondsinvestigation uh into the promised software, you know, closes it up nice and tidy. , 29 minutes, 33 secondsBoom. Bill Clinton comes in. You go a couple presidents later, you have Donald Trump gets in office and Bill Barr takes , 29 minutes, 43 secondsthe seat as attorney general again and you get um a shutdown of the Mueller , 29 minutes, 51 secondsinvestigation or it gets guided and and sort of it gets proposed to the American people a certain way like nothing to see here.

But around that time, Jeffrey , 29 minutes, 58 secondsEpstein is prosecuted. He’s put in a metropolitan detention center and he’s immediately dead and his body’s gone. , 30 minutes, 4 secondsAnd the guy who does the um uh he was the medical examiner is Dr. Michael Ben who’s very famous , 30 minutes, 13 secondswho’s very famous for doing JFK, OJ Simpson’s wife, George Floyd, and Michael Brown Ferguson among others. and , 30 minutes, 20 secondsSandra Burmore murdered by a police officer in Massachusetts in a four-year coverup that only came to light because of Michael Ben’s work. , 30 minutes, 29 secondsInteresting. , 30 minutes, 31 secondsI don’t know if it’s good, but it’s interesting. He’s I’ll send you that story.

I didn’t talk about that one, too. , 30 minutes, 37 secondsHe’s all over the place. And then he does Jeffrey Epstein, you know, and but the guy who’s really there at he he’s he’s there is Bill Bar. , 30 minutes, 47 secondsNow, who hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach at the Dalton School? Donald Bar, William Bar’s father. Oh, I did not know that. Come on. , 30 minutes, 56 secondsRight. [snorts] So, it’s not paranoia. If you just keep going, wait a minute, that’s his dad. Like, it there’s 330 million Americans. , 31 minutes, 5 secondsNot all of them hired Jeffrey Epstein or, you know, came in and covered something up that Jeffrey Epste was , 31 minutes, 12 secondsinvolved in and then came in and was there when Jeffrey Epste got uh, you know, or money through a banking system where , 31 minutes, 19 secondsthe judge who was looking into the banking system had a mysterious knock at her door where her son ends up dead and her husband ends up.

So, there’s like , 31 minutes, 27 secondsthere’s a lot of things here and and yes, they a rabbit hole. Or you could take and , 31 minutes, 38 secondsremember the days when journalism was respected. Investigative journalism led to Watergate. In fact, investigative journalism took down Jeffrey Epstein. , 31 minutes, 47 secondsand you and you put some more faith in I think what investigative journalists are capable of because what we have been , 31 minutes, 56 secondsdoing for decades, your work with what you do and putting together these plans and strategies and understanding all of this uh how this whole mechanism works. , 32 minutes, 5 secondsYou do it for corporations, journalists do it for you, for the public.

And now they’re trying to dismiss us as as craft , 32 minutes, 14 secondspots and idiots. It’s it’s really astonishing. But I think that, you know, that’s why I’m so grateful that you invited me on because you do have that , 32 minutes, 21 secondscore audience of people who actually trust you, know what you’re talking about because you’ve proven it. You have a history of of what you’re saying is , 32 minutes, 28 secondsbacked up by facts. This that’s really what we should be looking for. And this story in the LA in LA magazine about the , 32 minutes, 35 secondsSaudis, all of it is contained in court records. Challenge me. Anyone can email me. Michelle with one michellem.com. , 32 minutes, 43 secondsYou can shout out a a terrible question on Twitter.

I’ll answer it. All of this is backed up by documentation. This , 32 minutes, 50 secondsisn’t this isn’t sourced. This isn’t deep sources. This isn’t somebody leaked it to me to tickle the wire. This is , 32 minutes, 58 secondspart of a lawsuit. It’s contained in a lawsuit. It’s all public. You pulled the thread years ago and now the thread continues. And hopefully this gets some , 33 minutes, 6 secondsattention for the families because that’s who matters in this entire story are these families who are getting screwed over. Well, you’re doing actual , 33 minutes, 14 secondsjournalism. You are picking a topic. You are you are gathering your information and you’re letting the story be told based on those facts.

I mean, where I’m , 33 minutes, 23 secondsfrom, that’s an intelligence analyst, but um you know, whatever. But be because the journalists that are out there in the corporate environment in , 33 minutes, 31 secondsgeneral are are people that have been trafficking especially the last 10 years since Trump got in. You have a whole lot , 33 minutes, 38 secondsof this secret sources say and um several sources close to the matter say , 33 minutes, 45 secondsand oh we you know somebody gave me classified intelligence which I’m going to tell you here but I I have rights as a journalist. I’m not going to tell you where I got this um national defense , 33 minutes, 54 secondsinformation that is illegal for me to even possess at all under 18 US Code 793, which has no statutory cutouts.

, 34 minutes, 1 secondWell, listen, if you were going to slide me a couple of those documents, I’m not going to say no. Let’s be honest, Eric. , 34 minutes, 6 secondsSo, I don’t have a problem with the with the reporters doing their job, which is to try to get their hands on documents like that. , 34 minutes, 12 secondsThat you know, uh that I I I think a lot of things are overclassified. So, in general, I in general, I I see where , 34 minutes, 19 secondsyou’re going, but we have entire we have entire ecosystems of stories that are based on , 34 minutes, 27 secondshorseshit that when you get to the when you finally get to the end, and this is we’ve got grand juries that are open right now that I think you’re I mean, we , 34 minutes, 35 secondsknow it ties into the Epstein people here because we’ve got Kathy Rumler who was uh who was in Obama’s , 34 minutes, 42 secondsadministration.

She was That is a crazy story. It’s a crazy story, right? , 34 minutes, 47 secondsWell, we can’t start it because I have to go to a dinner in 10 minutes, but I can talk for the best. We could talk for hours because I love where your brain goes , 34 minutes, 55 secondsand and and and perhaps we shall do it again, but uh I wanted to say thank you and I wanted to to learn more about what you were thinking and it was such a , 35 minutes, 3 secondsgreat idea to to do so. You are doing wonderful work out there and I don’t even think you recognize how important it is, but we’ll make sure more people , 35 minutes, 12 secondsunderstand and we’ll get more people reading it. So, where can we find more of you?

You’re on Twitter, right? , 35 minutes, 17 secondsI’m on Twitter, Michelle with 1L uh mcby mcp. But I I want to say thank you because honestly, it’s people who are , 35 minutes, 26 secondsbrave enough to speak out and and connect the dots and be willing to pull the string. Without people like you, you know, I think a lot of people would be , 35 minutes, 34 secondsheld in the dark. There’s more. We need more and more people. And when we see what’s happening in newsrooms across the country and we see what’s happening to people like you who are being , 35 minutes, 42 secondsdiscredited by the Atlantic with unnecessarily, it really is more and more important that people start to pay , 35 minutes, 49 secondsattention.

And all of this research they can do themselves. You know, you posted the documents. These aren’t fake. Like , 35 minutes, 56 secondsthey come from the FBI vault. Anybody can look at the FBI vault. Look it up. , 36 minutes, 1 secondThe 911 28 pages. Read it yourself. Once you start going down , 36 minutes, 10 secondsthese patterns that are ignored largely, this 911 story is a big one and it’s and it’s not going to go away and hopefully , 36 minutes, 18 secondsthe it it’s hopefully at the very least we bring some Saudi government officials into a courtroom to answer some questions. If they don’t want to do that, then they can pay the families. , 36 minutes, 29 secondsTwo choices, pay or talk. So those are the two choices that uh the US District Court judge has left them at this point.

, 36 minutes, 37 secondsAnd that is and that is great news. And it’s a wonderful timing that we have some district judges in the United States who are like no no no we’re going , 36 minutes, 45 secondsto choose the right thing here. And you don’t you know they’re not it’s not going to get dismissed under rule 12b6. , 36 minutes, 52 secondsIt’s no this lawsuit can go forward. You can use the American courts to get the truth. And God there’s going to be you , 37 minutesgot to get to dinner. There is so much more to go. Michelle McI, thank you for what you do and thank you for being here tonight. , 37 minutes, 7 secondsThank you so much for having me honestly and and to be continued. I I would love to, you know, talk again.

Oh, I I I promise you something. , 37 minutes, 16 secondsCan you imagine the next time I’m in Vermont, we’re going to take a barn and just do all the string walls from all the Epstein connections that go back to 911 because there’s a lot of them. , 37 minutes, 24 secondsThat’s our next mission. You’re on. Done. Deal. Done. , 37 minutes, 28 secondsDeal. All right. And thank you for everybody who watches Game Theory today. , 37 minutes, 33 secondsClick like, sub, subscribe, all that good stuff. And we will talk to you soon. Take care.