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Even Judges Can Go to Jail

Game Theory Today · Live stream · 58 min · Published 2025-12-20 on YouTube

LIVE — Friday, December 19, 2025 · 12:00 PM ET
A weekly briefing on the news the analyst’s desk has been tracking — including a sitting U.S. judge convicted for interfering with federal immigration enforcement, what’s missing from the latest Epstein file release, Bill Clinton’s choice of wedding companion, the next phase of the moon-base race, and the return of letters of marque.
In this solo briefing, intelligence analyst Eric Garland walks through the week’s strangest and most consequential stories with a working analyst’s discipline: source evaluation, structural analysis, and the cognitive biases that color how each item is being told. The lead is Judge Hannah Dugan’s conviction in Milwaukee — a case that quietly establishes a precedent most viewers will not see anywhere else.
This is not partisan commentary. It is a structured weekly read of what professional analysts are noting that the broader news cycle has either missed, sanitized, or sensationalized.

WHAT WE’LL COVER
– The Hannah Dugan conviction in Milwaukee — and why “even judges go to jail” is a precedent worth understanding
– What is missing from the latest Epstein file release: the bank records
– Bill Clinton’s wedding +1 and the questions it surfaces
– The current moon-base competition — what the U.S., China, and others are positioning for
– Letters of marque, modern privateering, and why the language of pirates is back in legislative drafts
– How to read this week’s mix as an intelligence professional, not a partisan

ABOUT THE HOST
Eric Garland is a strategic intelligence analyst with three decades of experience briefing Fortune 500 boards, government agencies, and military planners. He is the founder of Competitive Futures and the host of Game Theory Today.
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[music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] , 2 secondsGreetings to all. Eric Garland here coming to you live from the Green Mountains of Vermont where I’m from, , 9 secondswhere I belong. And uh we are here to uh do the latest weekly rundown. , 17 secondsUm I gotta tell you guys, I don’t I don’t even know where to go for news anymore. Um hey Neil, what’s up? , 25 secondsRogue cows here. Seeing you guys. Good, good, good. Um, uh, trying to do some upgrades here. Hope that the tech is , 32 secondsworking all right here. Um, tried to upgrade from last week where we had some trouble hearing me. If there’s any any feedback, let me know. Not sure how much , 41 secondsI can do on the fly here, but I had 100 uh 100 megabytes up and down each way.

I don’t think I’ve ever had an internet , 48 secondsconnection this good. So, uh, short of, uh, building out a full TV station, this may be as good as I I can do in the , 55 secondsshort term. Um, as I was just saying, I’m I I’m not even sure where to go for for news anymore. , 3 secondsUm, you know, it’s funny. I did some of these streaming shows during the uh let’s call it the the first Trump era , 10 secondswhich had a very different quality than this one and appeared with different sorts of folks and uh did some early rundowns of , 19 secondsuh of the Jeffrey Epstein stuff back in the day. Didn’t how important it was going to get frankly. Um, and uh, you , 28 secondsknow, it’s it’s funny.

There’s a whole lot fewer uh voices on on on Twitter and YouTube that uh that I’m connected with , 36 secondswith research. We’ve sort of diverged in different ways. Um, I’m still doing the national security beat and the justice , 42 secondsbeat. And uh, there’s still a lot to talk about. So happy to be with you here. Uh, got a couple main themes here. , 51 secondsOne is the Epstein files which uh were declassified somewhat by the Department of Justice , 58 secondstoday at the behest of the Trump administration based on the Epstein Files Transparency Act. , 6 secondsUm and then we’re going to talk about Judge Hannah Dugan who was convicted of obstruction uh obstructing ICE yesterday , 16 secondsuh late.

But first, we’re gonna get into these Epstein files. And I I don’t know where you guys are sitting on this. Uh, , 24 secondsfirst of all, I I’m a professional researcher and I interact with people doing law enforcement quite a bit and I , 33 secondsunderstand what prosecutions are like and how many thousands upon perhaps even , 42 secondsmillions of files you might go through in order to get the the documents that , 48 secondsyou might want to put in front of a jury or uh a judge or whatever. , 57 secondsAnd I’m I’m not saying that everyone has been had with this Epstein file stuff. , 2 secondsUm, but there’s, you know, there’s the cry, “Release the Epstein files.” And here they are. And , 10 secondsnow, folks, you have thousands of images of douchebags having dinner.

, 16 secondsThat’s right. Everyone was this was going to end the Trump administration, some people thought, I guess, and it’s going to tear down the universe of , 25 secondsthousands of pictures of douche canoes with money having dinner in wealthy places. , 33 secondsUh we’re going to go through some of those those images. So, just so you know exactly what’s going on here, um the , 40 secondsDOJ, I guess Todd Blanch, who’s who’s uh believe deputy attorney general uh for for criminal, I think he’s uh , 50 secondshe’s topsided thousands upon thousands of these files. I’m going to I’m going to give you some here. , 57 secondsAre are you ready? These are the Epstein files, people. , 4 secondsThey’re a testament to completely awful taste in interior design.

, 12 secondsThat’s what the Epstein’s files are. , 17 secondsIs from Jeffrey Epstein’s ceiling. He had a statue of a girl not hanging from a rope. Exactly. , 29 secondsUh I guess she’s looks like she’s wearing a veil. , 33 secondsThis is it. We got them. Now we got everybody. Now, here’s here’s another bit of nightmare fuel for you. Uh, from , 42 secondsthe Epstein files, it’s people have mentioned this once before. It’s Bill Clinton [clears throat] wearing like Monica Lewinsk’s dress that Jeffrey , 50 secondsEpstein had displayed in his town townhouse. So, yeah, , 57 secondsthat’s um Oh, I got I got I got more here. Oh, here here we are. This is a mural in Jeffrey Epstein’s apartment in New York.

, 8 secondsI think we now understand the secret of the Da Vinci Code. , 14 secondsUm, I have a question, which is how could this dude have this much money in Manhattan and not have any gay friends to tell him how how awful this decor is? , 27 secondsWhat is with this chandelier? , 30 secondsWhat is with, you know, the the the powder blue? , 35 secondsIs that wallpaper? I mean, what’s what is going on here? , 39 secondsJust from an interior design perspective, I I’ve designed a the interior of a couple homes. Um, , 47 secondsI’m I’m more of a tasteful guy myself. I like classic uh or historic even things. , 53 secondsI like wood and natural fiber. , 58 secondsUm, but Epstein supposedly had um, you know, , 4 secondsa lot of money, but this is this is this is what apparently several billion dollars of less Wexner’s , 13 secondsmoney will get you.

Oh, here’s another one here. Oh, he he had photos done up at FedEx Kinko’s apparently. There’s a black square here. , 24 secondsSo apparently of um his victims in the hall that sounds about par for the course. , 33 secondsIt’s it’s it’s pretty ugly. But there’s one in particular that I think is is perhaps the most important and it’s and , 41 secondsit’s come out here. Um it’s this one of Bill Clinton. , 49 secondsUh I’m gonna g I I gathered that this photo is about 23 years old. It’s 2002. , 54 secondsSo, it’s only only a year plus um where Bill Clinton’s been out of the White House. So, a year and a half before this , 3 secondsphoto, Bill Clinton was president of the United States. The first guy he’s hanging out with as soon as he’s done , 10 secondsis Jeffrey Epstein.

Now, this is 2002 for those of you keeping score. , 16 secondsUh Epstein got got prosecuted in Palm Beach in 2007. So the stuff that he is , 24 secondsdoing around Bill Clinton is the stuff he’s eventually and I have talked to people who met Epstein when he was out trying to groom teenagers , 32 secondsum at Interlockan in Michigan high schoolers. Uh I know people that , 38 secondshave met him and he was doing this grooming behavior. He was trafficking kids the whole time. So, Bill Clinton , 48 secondshere is um Bill Clinton here at the time of this photo is hanging out with child trafficker. Now, Bill Clinton’s wife is , 58 secondsthis woman named Hillary Clinton. You may have remembered her.

She was a senator and they’re hang he she’s in the Senate , 5 secondsand he’s hanging out with a child trafficker. Okay. , 10 secondsNow, if you go online right now, there’s a whole lot of stuff about how the reason Trump, who had Epstein put in , 17 secondsprison for federal prison, hits his DOJ that put him away in 2019, and he’s the guy like threw Epstein out of Mara Lago permanently. , 29 secondsAnd um we’re we’re told, “Oh, Trump’s the one holding back all this information , 37 secondsabout Jeffrey Epstein because he’s involved in the files.” Um, and maybe there’s something I’m I’m , 45 secondsmissing. Maybe there’s something in there. Um, though I got to say, Trump’s been under a lot of scrutiny.

If somebody’s got something on their camera , 54 secondsphone, there’s a lot of places to to go with it. There’s a lot of people that will take a a you know a nasty photo of , 1 secondTrump and Epstein. Lots and lots of media outlets would love that kind of thing. We’re just not seeing it now, are we? But anyway, we’re told it’s almost here, guys. , 13 secondsIt’s going to be Trump and Epstein. But we see photo after photo of Bill Clinton who had Epstein over to the White House , 20 secondswhen he was president 17 different times. , 25 secondsAnd um then he hangs out with Epstein the second he’s out. And this photo from 2002 is reportedly from the king of , 34 secondsMorocco invites him to a wedding.

And Clinton has the tmerity reportedly to say, “Oh, , 41 secondsI got a plus one.” Now, I I haven’t been to I’m I’m a certain type of middle-ag. , 46 secondsMy f my kids, my friends kids, they’re not getting married yet. Um, and none of my friends are inviting me to weddings. , 54 secondsTheir fifth wedding or whatever it’s it is at this point. You know, we’re all retreads at this age. Um, so I haven’t been invited to a wedding in a while. , 1 secondYou know what I’m saying? Um, but I did get invited to weddings for a little bit and I never , 9 secondsas a guest was allowed to invite guests of me. So this is a guest of a guest. So apparently Bill Clinton was able to lean , 17 secondson the Morocco government to bring Epstein and Maxwell to Morocco, which I I I gather this is.

, 26 secondsUm, so we’re told that Trump somehow was very close friends with this Epstein, , 33 secondsbut we’re supposed to take like, I don’t know, Michael author Michael Wolf’s uh, word for it, even though Wolf worked , 40 secondswith Jeffrey with Jeffrey Epstein’s pal Steve Bannon on books. So, I don’t know. , 45 secondsWe kind of maybe got to look at this Michael Wolf guy as scants a bit. Um, Bill Clinton’s wife ran for president in , 54 seconds2008. She also ran for president in 2016. I don’t know if you all remember this, this Hillary Clinton type. , 1 secondUh, and her husband was hanging out with a child trafficker from front to back the whole time. , 10 secondsAnd I’m not saying Trump’s not involved with Epstein.

I, you know, I wasn’t there for every second of the guy’s uh, , 16 secondsyou know, adult life, 70s on all the way up. I’m not sure. Um , 24 secondsbut um so maybe Trump is hanging out with Epstein. We just don’t know about it. But we do know that that President Bill Clinton was hanging out with , 33 secondsEpstein while he was president as soon as he got out, while his wife was senator, while his wife ran for president twice. And somehow Bill , 41 secondsClinton’s relationship with this convicted child trafficker never came up. So I have a couple questions here. , 51 secondsWe, you know, also Epstein gets out uh in what 09 or so from his halfway uh , 58 secondsprison camp where he gets to report back to his house every night.

The sweet deal he got. He goes to his townhouse in in , 7 secondsManhattan and he’s meeting with Charlie Rose and and George Stephanopoulos from ABC. So this is the media, right? PBS and ABC and all these others. , 19 secondsAnd maybe we wonder why Hillary Clinton, you know, there was no stories about how, hey, Hillary Clinton’s husband , 28 secondshangs out with a child trafficker. I’m starting to take that a little personal a as an American citizen, as a voter here. Do you know what I’m saying, guys? , 37 secondsLike, um, you know, uh, you know, I I I think that would have that would have helped a , 45 secondslittle bit. Now, I got to say, in the in the Hillary Clinton uh Donald Trump , 51 secondsum debate in 2016 when Trump paraded what four or five of the women who accused Bill Clinton of sexual , 59 secondsimproprieties into the front row of the audience or into the I mean, that was awkward.

Then again, the last 10 years have been awkward, have they not? It’s , 8 secondsjust been very, very creepy. But that was a very creepy moment. And it was like, “Wow, this this Trump guy seems totally off off sides with all this.” , 17 secondsUm, but I but here’s the thing. You know what he did not say is, “Hey, Bill Clinton, your , 27 secondshusband hangs out with a child trafficker.” He made he he had a lot of implications about Bill, but it’s pretty easy to have implications about Bill. , 37 secondsUm, oh, hold on. There’s uh Rogue Cow says 5D porn incoming. I don’t know what to do with that. It’s very funny to me. , 48 secondsUh I don’t know if that’s from the the the Epstein decor or the Bill Clinton stuff.

, 53 secondsI’m not certain, but that’s a good comment. I’m I’m going to laugh about that here. Um I’m going to put this one up. 5D porn incoming. I hope not. I hope not. This is uh this is the I believe the map room of number 10 Downing Street , 9 secondswhere Winston Churchill plotted out um uh his responses operation dynamo and , 16 secondshis responses to the Nazis. 5D porn incoming. I I hope not. [laughter] , 23 secondsUm Neil a stalwart here. What was up with the Winnie the Pooh with Epstein pick? Uh , 33 secondshold on. Do do we mean do we mean this? I don’t know if this is Winnie the Pooh or there’s something , 40 secondselse if there is a more specific Winnie the Pooh and Epstein thing.

This is , 47 secondsnightmare fuel enough. That’s all I got for for for that one. Um , 54 secondsuh so transparent. I’m [snorts] assuming Jenny. I’m assuming you mean um some of the Epstein files here. Seems like there , 2 secondswas a lot missing. Yeah. Jeffrey Epstein was like an arch spy for decades. He he studied under , 10 secondsum he studied under Gillen Maxwell whose father was a super spy and he did super spy things and he was making friends , 18 secondswith scientists so he could like steal people’s scientific research and he he could get you to tickets to Davos 10 years after he was convicted of child trafficking. , 28 secondsIt seems like there’s a lot missing. , 30 secondsYeah. Yeah, it does.

It seems like there’s a whole lot missing. Uh the transactions and everything else in the discovery of bank cases. Yeah, the dude , 37 secondsJeffrey Epstein had bank accounts with Spurbank, the Russian bank. , 43 secondsI mean, his real thing that he was able to do was move money and and know what kind of money you had moved from A to B. , 51 secondsUm, he was with Bear Sterns after he quit the Dalton School, the high school that he was teaching at with no teaching degree, working for Bill Bar’s father, , 59 secondsBill Bar’s dad, who used to be in the OSS, the predecessor to the CIA. Nothing interesting about that, right? He then , 7 secondsgoes to work for Bear Sterns. No, has some some career, I guess, gets out when there’s some questions about insider , 16 secondstrading or something.

And then he leaves and he starts his own company that tracks international money stuff. He has , 23 secondsone secretary and he gets as a client Adnan Kosoji, the arms dealer behind , 30 secondsuh Iran Contra, the uncle of um Jamal Kashoji who was killed in 2018. , 40 secondsUm, so yeah, there are there are no bank files that have been uh uploaded. So I’m , 47 secondssitting there I’m my your animus is my animus here. I’m sitting there w looking at photos of douchebags having dinner , 55 secondsand I do not want to see them have any more dinner. Tired of it. Um, I want to see the bank records. I want to see Lun. , 5 secondsI want to see Kiss. I want to see Spurbank. I want to see so general bank of Scotland.

I want to see banks in , 14 secondsToronto. I want to see the offshore stuff. Show me Malta. Show me Cayman’s. , 19 secondsCome to Papa. Show me Luxembourg. Show me the thing. You know what I want? Show me the Wyoming LLC’s. , 27 secondsBut no, I gotta I gotta watch uh I gotta watch Kevin Spacy go on a really , 35 secondsboring middle-aged person like historical tour. , 40 secondsSo Jenny, your your concerns are my concerns and and and why would they need , 49 secondsinstructional videos explaining 47 redactions? , 53 secondsI mean there’s there’s multiple reasons to to redact this stuff. There is you don’t want to um you know you don’t want to bother victims that have not given consent and you may not want to get in even if a victim says um , 8 secondsuh that yes you have my consent.

They they just might not want uh to have that information out there , 16 secondswhere people are going to start focusing on well how did that person get there? , 19 secondsWhy are they a victim? you know, you you want to keep this on the malifactors and and the co-conspirators and stuff like that. Also, , 28 secondsum the money is where this is at. This is all about um where the bank records, , 37 secondswhen did he, you know, where where are his JP Morgan records? , 42 secondsIn what sums, who did he who did he give money to? You know, who did he get money from? Who did he manage money for? , 49 secondsBecause to my knowledge, nobody can tell you what trades Jeffrey Epste made. I talked about this, I believe, in the , 57 secondslast ep in the last uh stream we did here.

Warren Buffett, everybody can tell you Warren Buffett traded Coca-Cola. He did railroads. , 8 secondsHe he did things that you can track. And he said, “Here’s why I believe in this industry at this time.” Bergkshire Hathway is is transparent. , 17 secondsIt’s on the books. you can see what they’ve they’ve traded in. Um Jeffrey Epstein, I don’t think anyone can tell you what he traded in. , 26 secondsSo, you know, yeah, there’s uh there’s a lot going there there’s there’s a lot going , 33 secondson. And so, we’ve we’ve got some some pictures of uh of these knuckleheads. , 40 secondsLet’s see. , 46 secondsYeah, there’s there there’s a ton of just facility photos of of um of the uh , 53 secondslittle island in the Caribbean in the Virgin Islands.

Um some of the people that work there. I mean, it’s just not , 1 secondvery it’s not very interesting. Uh either way, it this is going to be millions of files. You know, you’re , 7 secondsyou’re talking about a guy um who was plausibly implicated in the theft of software called Promise, P O M I S. , 17 secondsThat’s the prosecutor’s management information system, also known as the INS law affair. This was the database that that linked up IRS tax , 26 secondsinvestigations, criminal investigations from FBI, and counter intelligence investigations from the FBI. And I , 33 secondsbelieve that Robert Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein and and others were involved in the exfiltration of that software from , 40 secondsthe US government and they say gave it to the Soviets, to the Libyans, to all sorts of folks.

Um, , 48 secondsyou’re you’re talking about the the Epstein files. You’re talking about millions upon millions of files. Most of them heavily redacted. Most of them most , 56 secondsof them, sorry. Most of them seriously classified. , 59 secondsUm, so you know, we’re going to be stuck looking at at at pictures of of of this kind of thing. , 11 secondsIs that are we being shortch changed by the US government? Now, I’d be interested from from you all. I I’ I’d , 19 secondsbe um um you know, I’d be interested. , 27 secondsUh sorry, I got a got a good good question here. Uh it’s my man Tandra. , 33 secondsShould Donald J. Trump fire Attorney General Pambi for incompetence? He appointed her. , 40 secondsUm he I think she’s doing what he wanted.

She’s going hard in the paint at the at the cartels and at uh child , 47 secondstraffickers. And um we’ve got Judge Hannah Dugan, who we’re going to be discussing tonight. Probably a good , 54 secondssegue for that. Um I I can see why the American people, if they don’t like Donald Trump’s agenda, why they can vote for somebody else. But um I think I think Pam Bondi is really acclimated well to her role. um you might not like , 10 secondshow she’s doing her her job, but that that might be a matter of politics. Um, now some of the some of the competent , 17 secondsstuff like the the um uh the indictment of Jim Comey where Lindseay Hallan uh had no prosecutorial experience at all , 25 secondsand had been on the job for like a day and a half and she goes and indictes the former director of the FBI which then the indictment gets dismissed in so far , 34 secondsas that that was intentional or that wasn’t intentional that that was a a mess up.

I suppose Pam Bondi is to blame , 42 secondsfor it. Now, if you think that they just wanted to topside some stuff about the functioning , 48 secondsof the FBI and spread out some evidence knowing that Jim Comey might be exonerated in all that, , 56 secondsum, then maybe Pam Bondi wasn’t wasn’t incompetent at all. Maybe she’s very incompetent at something um where she’s , 5 secondsrequired to look kind of dumb. I think some of the people that are in pos certain positions in the in the government under Donald Trump are there , 13 secondsto get certain things done. Dan Bonino was a podcaster um much zier than I am and he’s been , 21 secondsdeputy director of the FBI where he has been laser focused on child exploitation , 28 secondsand violent crime.

Um I I think he’s been a galvanizing figure. He was not my favorite two years ago, you know. And he , 37 secondsand Cash Patel um I I I think I might have called Cash Patel like a five-time gold medalist in in the treason , 46 secondsOlympics, something to that effect. I think they have been reforming the FBI admirably. , 52 secondsAnd I think the refocus in places like St. Louis and um on public on public corruption in particular, I’m really , 1 secondrather behind. Um I’m very surprised now was their job was their job just to be the face of these things some things , 10 secondsthat might be very unpopular especially with the rank and file you know there’s a lot of people in FBI it’s a very very , 17 secondsold institution it’s over a century old a lot of people not really interested in change so you have these outsiders come , 23 secondsin and kick a bunch of butt and they get a lot done in a short period of time um organizational change is hard man and uh , 32 secondsuh you sometimes you need a short sharp shock and I think that’s some of these guys have done.

Now if you’re politically against what they’re up to , 41 secondsthen this is this is a nightmare for you. But if if you’re not um or if you just a fan of things that get shaken up I don’t know this is very interesting. , 50 secondsSo that that um is is a good that’s kind of have to shuffle the deck here a , 57 secondslittle bit. Um, you know, that is a good transition to , 3 secondsuh this this situation in Wisconsin with , 11 secondsboom. Milwaukee judge, state judge in Wisconsin, Judge Hannah Duban was found guilt guilty of felony obstruction. , 21 secondsUh, I don’t know how many of you have remember this case or have followed it around. Uh back in April, the Trump , 28 secondsadministration was starting to crack down on a lot of people who were , 36 secondsin the United States illegally and particularly people that had been deported before, removed before, and who were back in again.

So that’s a lot of , 44 secondswhat the the uh the ICE uh raids were were going after people. They had intelligence. , 52 secondsUm that they were still they were in this country again illegally and they were up to no good and so they needed to be targeted and and removed. And you know that plus the thousands upon thousands of Sinaloa, Khalisco cartel, , 8 secondsMS-13 gang bangers, Mexican mafia, Surenos. I mean, there’s a lot of bad guys in this country who are not these are not the the immigrants you like. , 19 secondsThese are people here temporarily and and violently. And so the ICE was earlier this year was going places where , 28 secondsthey knew they might able to safely uh arrest some of these people that their list.

, 35 secondsAnd this is some evidence from the Judge Hannah Dugan case. Now, if if you , 43 secondsremember, um, for those of you who remember the the case at all, Hannah Dugan was a sitting judge, and there was a guy in , 51 secondsher courtroom, uh, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, who had been previously deported and removed. He came , 58 secondsback to the United States illegally, and he was actually in court to face a domestic battery charge. So he punched , 5 secondshis roommates in the face, I think. Um, so Ice was there to to pick him , 13 secondsuh to pick him up and Hana Dugan, the the judge, did not like , 21 secondsthat that they were there in in her courtroom. , 26 secondsAnd she wore her robe, got another judge to come with her.

That judge actually testified this week against her, wore , 35 secondsher judge, wore her robe into the hallway and confronted some of the plain clothes ICE agents and others. She’d , 44 secondsheard that that ICE was serving a warrant. , 47 secondsNow, you have to back up and remember why ICE or any feds would choose a , 56 secondscourthouse as a place to do the service of an arrest warrant. , 2 secondsUm, where they, by the way, they do not need a judicial warrant. , 8 secondsThey need an administrative warrant because they are part of article two of the government. They are executive branch part of the government. They’re , 16 secondsnot article 3. They’re not the judiciary. They’re just there for ICE is just there for enforcement.

So the most they can get is an immigration judge has , 24 secondsgiven them an administrative warrant. So when you hear these words about, oh, you need a judicial warrant, not just a warrant, a judicial warrant. That’s , 32 secondswhere people are being tricky about this because they can’t get judicial warrants unless it’s something different. If you’ve been charged not with your , 40 secondsremoval, you know, under the Immigration Naturalization Act, but if you’ve been charged with a crime and you’re going to be tried here, , 48 secondsthat’s the only way they can get a judicial warrant is if an article three court is charging them with a crime. But , 55 secondssometimes their crime just might be you’re not supposed to be here.

Uh uh other times there is a state matter, a , 2 secondsstate criminal matter. So you’ve got federal jurisdiction over their immigration status and it’s not a , 10 secondsfederal it’s not a federal court that that is trying to have them arrested. So the these are small parts of uh juristp , 18 secondsprudence here but they really add up to something important here. So uh Hannah Dugan heard that ICE was executing this , 26 secondswarrant. And the reason ICE would come to a courthouse is if you think about it, these people have already had to go through metal detectors, , 35 secondsthey’re away from their homes where they might have a gun or they might have their children around or something. Uh, in this case, the dude was there to face , 43 secondsthe music on um, you know, I think a criminal battery charge.

So, he he’s there, you know, it’s it’s not disturbing his workday. , 54 secondsum you know he’s there on another judicial matter and they are there when he’s done with that to lay hands on him , 2 secondsand and detain him which is you know under title 8 of the US code they have the legal rights to do that that’s their , 10 secondsjob didn’t like that so she keeps her robe on in in the hallway now this is important because you’re you know , 18 secondssometimes judges do not wear their robes when they’re walking outside of their court. Um, and we had a case in in , 27 secondsMissouri, Rocket V. I judge Eric went into the hall. I don’t think he had his robe on, but he laid hands on two , 34 secondskids that didn’t want to go with their mom in a in a custody case.

And he threw these two little kids in jail personally, laid hands on these kids, , 42 secondsand he was not charged criminally. He was, but he was sued civily. Uh, and they appealed it up to the eighth circuit, and they won. the the uh the , 50 secondsthe father of the children won because it was determined that these were non-judicial acts. He was not he was not , 59 secondsimmune from suit what he did in the hallway and when he did something that judges don’t necessarily do. Judges issue orders from their their bench all , 8 secondsthe time. They are immune from suit. Not always immune from from crime or from criminal charges, but criminal charges are pretty rare, right? especially of , 16 secondsanything a judge is doing in their official capacity.

Here, Hana Dugan is is mixing these things up. She keeps her , 24 secondsher robe on. She encourages one of her colleagues here, who I believe testified against her this week, to wear her robe. , 30 secondsShe testified she wasn’t comfortable with. And they went and got the ICE agents and sent him on a wild goose chase. Made him go down the hall and all this other stuff. , 41 secondsum while Eduardo uh Flores Ruiz took off down the street and they had to , 48 secondshave a foot race with the guy kind of like a cop show you know and so for that , 54 seconds[snorts] , 55 secondsum for for that Judge Dugan was was charged , 4 secondswith with a crime I think I’ve got boop boop , 16 secondsYeah. Title 18, section 1505.

, 20 secondsThis was uh she corruptly endeavored to influence, obstruct, and impede the proper due administration of the law. Um , 29 secondsso this was the felony charge that that she faced for this. The the thought there was that, , 38 secondsyou know, the Homeland Security people were in a public place and she used her official office as a , 45 secondsjudge as cover for getting in the way of ICE and trying to send them down uh, you know, the , 53 secondswrong hallway so that somebody could escape. , 58 secondsAnd she was charged. And oh, I saw a lot of influencer types who were like, “This is tyranny. This is it. This is fascism.” , 7 secondsUh, and there’s a few there there there’s a few issues here to discuss.

, 13 secondsUm, you know, this was not done in her official capacity. This this was done in , 19 secondsher personal capacity. Uh judges do not uh advocate for random citizens in the , 27 secondsmiddle of the hallway when a federal agency’s trying to serve serve uh a , 34 secondswarrant on them. That’s that’s not her job. And she engaged in some substuge. And I , 43 secondsbelieve they caught her on audio in in the courtroom saying, “I’ll take the heat.” like she knew she was using that , 51 secondsrobe for protection of of of what she she wanted to do. Uh and so what’s , 58 secondsinteresting is this is a very very democratic part of the country. It’s a , 5 secondsvery democratic part of Wisconsin.

The the judge was reportedly best friends with Russ Fineold at some point I gather , 12 secondsan avowed socialist and this could have been the most you know blue jury you might run into. And they still convicted , 21 secondsHana Dugan of felony obstruction. And she could serve up to a year in prison, maximum of five years. This is a judge. , 30 secondsShe has no criminal record before this, but as of tonight, she’s a convicted felon. And um you know, I was in St. , 39 secondsLouis, Missouri for 15 years. uh where there’s a lot of parts of uh the government and the judicial system there that they those people think that that , 48 secondsthe law doesn’t apply to them that your civil rights don’t matter to them the US constitution does not bind them and uh you know criminal obstruction is no , 56 secondsproblem.

This is a major case here with uh with with Judge Dugan , 4 secondswhere she was found guilty by a very liberal jury in a liberal place presided over by a liberal judge. Um there was a , 13 secondslot of people who said this isn’t going to amount to anything. And I I read I actually read the pleadings. That’s what , 21 secondsI do here folks. I go read the source documents. um she tried to get her case dismissed by uh by saying that she’s , 28 secondsimmune from suit, that she’s immune from these criminal charges. And uh Seven Circuit said, “No, you’re not. No, , 37 secondsyou’re not. You’re uh you’re generally immune from from civil liability. Nobody can sue you for what you did as a judge, but crime is crime, , 45 secondsand uh you there’s there’s no doctrine that says that you that that you can’t be charged, and others have.” And here , 53 secondsthis was, you know, in addition, this was not a judicial act that she did.

You know, it is not part of the normal uh the normal practice of being a judge to get off the bench to go into the hallway and to try , 9 secondsand interfere with a law enforcement action. So, she’s uh she’s a convicted felon tonight. And uh I I found it , 18 secondsinteresting. I wanted to I was wondering whatever Whatever happened to Edward Flores Ruiz, , 28 secondsum the guy who was who had come to her courtroom to answer for punching his roommates in the face? Uh well, federal , 36 secondsprosecutors went in him for Title 8 offenses that he had been deported already at age 18. He was 30 years of , 43 secondsage and he um you know he was he was here illegally. , 50 secondsSo they he had to plead out to that and not long before she went to trial uh he was deported , 59 secondsuh from this country.

So I think he pleaded out in September of this year and in no in last month, November 14th, , 6 secondshe’s back in Mexico. So let’s look at the whole thing. Trump gets reelected in November of last year. He comes in. , 15 secondshis his DOJ is uh quite a bit quite a bit different than than the past DOJ’s and they’re very focused on making sure , 23 secondsthat people are not here illegally, that they’re not released into uh into the United States and if they’re here illegally that especially if they have a criminal record that they’re going out. , 33 secondsSo, you know, Judge Dugan in April has, you know, ICE in her courthouse, not her courtroom, in her courthouse. , 42 secondsAnd they’re there for somebody who’s sitting in her um in her courtroom.

, 48 secondsAnd she decides to tell the ICE agents they have to go talk to the chief judge up the hall. And then she helps the guy , 56 secondssneak out the side. and now he’s back in Mexico and she is awaiting sentencing for a felony. Um, in Wisconsin, you’re not done um as a judge until sentencing. , 11 secondsSo, you can be uh you can be convicted by the jury, but it’s not until they sentence you that you be removed from office entirely. So, I to my knowledge, as of today, she is still on the bench. , 22 secondsUm, we shall see. Um and um , 29 secondsyou know this is uh I I think this is a major precedent in this case where uh you know we got judges who tried , 39 secondssomething very political.

I mean what Dugan did Dugan did not believe the Trump administration should be doing this kind of thing. Though we execute , 48 secondsarrest warrants in courouses all day long in this country. It’s a great place to do so. It’s the safest place to do so. The people have been proven to not be armed. They’re not near their kids. , 59 secondsThey’re not in their workplace. It’s actually the best place to do it. And she wanted to make a political statement. She wanted to resist Trump. , 8 secondsAnd she did so in a manner that actually crossed the line in terms of felony. She was given all sorts of due process. You know, she her her motions to dismiss her , 16 secondsindictment were heard. I’ve read the arguments.

her arguments weren’t that coherent. , 22 secondsOther arguments were um she faced a jury of her peers, probably the most favorable that they , 30 secondscould have been to her and she’s convicted. So, you know, doesn’t seem like fascism to me. Seems like she made , 37 secondsa a very bad decision and and even the prosecutors were like, “This is not a this is not a commentary on this woman’s whole life. It’s a comment on this day , 45 secondsthough where she made this decision and we need to decide whether that’s okay. , 50 secondsAnd I I look I you know there was a particularly a lot in the first Trump administration that the the way they exercise power was extremely , 58 secondsnerve-wracking and uh seemed quite illegitimate how it was going and there’s a lot of people who still feel that way today.

One thing’s for certain , 6 secondsthere’s got to be authority in this country. There has to be somebody to direct the military. There’s got to be somebody who sets the tone at the , 13 secondsDepartment of Justice. And as long as there’s hearings, as long as you can file a motion and it’s not thrown in the , 21 secondstrash can, by the way, in state courts like St. Louis, supposedly run by the Democrats, by the way, they just they’ll , 29 secondsjust take your pleadings and throw them in the trash. You just won’t get a hearing. They’ll put you in jail without charging you, and they’ll keep you in there for a year. Who’s going to do , 38 secondsanything about it? Trust me, there are civil rights abuses in this country nobody’s addressing.

, 44 secondsUm, but you know, as long as we’re as long as there is the rule of law, I don’t think we’re in fascism. Uh, I , 52 secondsthink you might not like what’s going on. I think there might be some policies that are not to everybody’s uh, liking. , 57 secondsthey aren’t to mine always. But I think, you know, you definitely want to maintain , 4 secondsauthority and in as common a way as possible the rule of law. Um because hey, your guy might be in that executive , 14 secondsrole next. And you’re going to want there not to be riots and mass civil , 20 secondsdisobedience of certain types uh when when they get there. we’re gonna still need a functional country. So, I , 29 secondsactually think the Hanadugan story, it’s sad for her, but it’s I think pretty good news for the United States.

Gonna take a few more more more questions here. , 40 secondsWill we ever find out who is truly pro-democracy and who isn’t? , 44 secondsThat’s a great question, you know. And what is pro-democracy? , 49 secondsUm, for me, pro-democracy, I I really focus on a lot of the um , 56 secondsa lot of the foreign interference stuff because I want to argue with our [ __ ] I want my jerk neighbors. , 6 secondsThat’s who I want to argue with. I don’t want to argue with Bellarouchian teenagers pretending to be from Pittsburgh anymore. I don’t want anybody , 14 secondselse from Kazakhstan pretending to be an outraged African-American in Louisville. , 20 secondsI want to argue with my neighbors and get to the bottom of these things.

I that’s democracy as far as I’m concerned. Um who is pro-democracy? , 30 secondsI I I think I think wherever you’re standing up for the principles of the revolution of the United States uh wi-i , 38 secondswhich was for due process of law and for taxation with representation and um you know with balance of power , 47 secondsand or rather checks and balances in power. As long as you hear people that are are standing up for those principles , 54 secondsI think you’ve got pro-democracy. I think I think and I think people can be pro-democracy. , 1 secondUm I think there are a lot of people in the right wing, for example, who are pro-democracy who believe things you don’t and people on the left who are , 9 secondspro-democracy who believe things you don’t.

They’re still both pro-democracy. , 14 secondsUm it’s those who want to, I don’t know, like weaponize family courts uh to , 20 secondspunish people for their speech or um who want one media you know, run by three corporations that , 28 secondsall same think the same kind of thing and will beat up anybody who doesn’t go along with a certain point of view. Uh, , 36 secondsI think that’s the anti-democratic stuff. But, um, to find out who pro who is truly pro-democracy, I don’t know. , 43 secondsAsk them. Get in more discussions like this. , 48 secondsWe got a really good Did Oh, Roger Roger Miller says, “Did Epstein ever even make , 56 secondstrades? Bernie Maid off never did.” I I have a lot of questions here.

What is the What was the difference between Maid , 4 secondsOff and Epstein? Maid Off of course went to prison. He died in prison. Um , 11 secondsand he but he got caught defrauding people on money. He didn’t get caught like trafficking children. He was just , 20 secondsrunning a a a standard run-of-the-mill Ponzi scheme where he had all these people come in, they’re making 8% over , 28 secondsthe market. You know, no matter what the market is doing, they’re always making 8% on their money. He had a dot matrix printer that um he was just making the , 37 secondsnumbers up. Um Epstein had a a very limited client list. like he he announced before everybody anybody was , 45 secondseven thinking this way.

I only do billionaire money. He did Wexner and others. It’s not clear who I mean , 53 secondsyou want some Epstein files. Who were all his clients? , 58 secondsShow me the bank books, the money in in and out. And did he ever buy equities? , 4 secondsDid he ever hold positions in any company? I think he was probably laundering offshore money from like the former Soviet Union and a bunch of , 12 secondsdictators and, you know, communist China and Hanoi and stuff that had been floating around for decades. I think that’s, you know, dude was a spy. I , 22 secondsthink those were his trades. He traded the old Bellarusian uh, you know, electrical grid money for the dirty , 31 secondsHanoi regime money.

and he he he said he was in the stock market , 38 secondsand there should be between Jeff between JP Morgan and Bear Sterns and the Department of Justice, there should be , 46 secondsrecords of that somewhere. I want to know. I want to see them. So, we we maybe one day when we’re not just , 54 secondslooking at pictures of these guys on there, we’ll find out what trades Jeffrey Epstein did or did not make. , 3 secondsLet’s see. , 6 secondsRo cow says, “Democrats need to acknowledge trafficking of drugs and people, especially children. They only focus on immigrants rights without , 13 secondslooking at cost to locals.” Yeah, I I think there’s such a thing as toxic sympathy and toxic compassion.

Um I , 21 secondsthink that there are a lot of people who’ve been trafficked and they’re in bad labor uh situations. And I think there’s some Democrats out there that , 28 secondssay, “Oh, these are poor people that need our help, so they need our help staying in this country in whatever , 35 secondssituation they’re in.” Given that they may have been trafficked there by the cartels, espe you know, you have these , 41 secondscoyotees in Mexico who charge them money to bring them across the border and they think they’re going to be doing one kind , 50 secondsof work. They think they’re going to be working on housing projects in Arizona and they end up on a dairy farm in in upstate New York in terrible conditions , 58 secondsand, you know, threequarters of their money gets stolen from them and their their transport documents are taken from them and all, you know, they end up in , 7 secondsin a horrible situation.

I think the the response is not necessarily , 14 secondsjust compassion for what’s going on with them because yeah, they may be just hardworking people, but they this is not people that came to this country necessarily even to stay long term. They , 23 secondsmay may have been sold a bill of goods by the human smugglers and you know they need help. Part of , 32 secondsthat help may be sending them home because they’re not in a good situation here. And that’s before you get into the , 40 secondsforeign cartels that are trafficking cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, meth, fentanyl, um, or, you know, much worse. , 51 secondsAnd they are part of transnational organized crime and transnational terror networks.

, 57 secondsAnd I think Democrats are doing a huge disservice by not acknowledging that and just saying, “But there’s a bunch of really nice people who have come here , 4 secondsand they’re perfectly nice, so leave them alone.” Yes, that may be true, but ignoring the Siloa cartel is not doing , 12 secondsthe Democratic party any favors. And I think just politically, the Trump administration can demonstrate drastic wins between here and the midterms of , 20 seconds2026 and the next presidential admin the next presidential election in 2028. , 27 secondsThey’re they’re going to own that space. , 30 secondsUm, you know, add that to some some Trump accounts and lowering taxes and cutting soldiers checks for 1776.

, 39 secondsI mean, the Republicans are on point in terms of their political campaigning. , 46 secondsDemocrats are generally apoplelectic and not happy to hear it, but that doesn’t make it any less true. , 53 secondsI’m going to go over to our old space over to Twitter. See if any uh if we have any good questions there. I got , 1 secondyelled at by Decepticon for uh for for posting one of the red the heavily redacted wall of black ink Epstein files pages that I think crashed his computer. , 12 secondsApologies for that. Um Sarah Unsuker, I remember her from , 22 secondsMissouri. Uh she says, “All Epstein’s gay friends were too busy being demonic to help with decor.” And that may be all of his friends.

Um , 31 secondsyeah. Yeah. He shocking shockingly bad uh taste in in everything. , 40 secondsUm, I think pretty quiet on the on the Twitter front. So, the the other the other news of the of the week, we , 47 secondsapparently are launching moon bases uh between now and 2028. , 54 secondsAnd it’s just interesting. I don’t I don’t know if uh if anybody else followed that. The uh it’s the Artemis project. So, we’re going to be sending up live astronauts to the moon again. , 6 secondsI I don’t know why we’re doing that or what. Um, but I found that very interesting. Senator Mike Lee of Utah , 13 secondssuggested that we form a core of pirates with letters of mark. M a r q ue. , 21 secondsLetters of mark.

So it instead of black bead black beard with the fuses in his beard and the parrot on his shoulder or , 30 secondswhatever, it’s going to be drone swarms and 50 caliber rifles on the boats. Um, that that was a delightful proposal. , 39 seconds[laughter] I don’t know if that’s I don’t know if we’re going to do that in addition to the US Navy and the Coast Guard to have a literal pirate fleet. , 48 seconds[laughter] , 48 secondsI mean, I hear more that that’s so that’s so festive and jaunty a a political , 57 secondssuggestion. I’m surprised it hasn’t gotten more, you know, more play. We had Space Force, you know, everyone had so much fun with that one. They like uh , 6 secondsthey they did a Netflix TV show with Steve Carell making fun of the whole thing.

Here we’ve got the the potential for Blackbeard part two. , 16 secondsSomebody needs to write a show. Um also, Donald Trump this week reclassified marijuana down to a class , 24 secondsthree drug, which is I think where it should be. Um I’m not sure how that’s going to impact uh how marijuana is , 31 secondsdealt with in terms of all these dispensaries. Those dispensaries create these noxious allcash businesses that , 39 secondsare particularly used by organized crime. There’s a lot of illegal uh immigrant slave labor using uh grow , 48 secondsoperations that are heavily cartel. Uh, I don’t know if it’s going to affect that, but um, it’s going to be very , 54 secondspopular and, uh, he’s, you know, coast to coast we’re going to be reclassifying marijuana so that it can get more easily , 2 secondsin the hands of cancer patients.

Again, terms of pure politics, that’s not a dumb move at all. And uh old school an old school story. , 12 secondsThe United Kingdom ordered a a full investigation of all the Russian influence in their politics since you had members of parliament such as Nathan , 20 secondsGil uh who was found to be on Russian payroll and doing Russian talking points and , 27 secondsspeaking as the official game theory guy and my interest in the Russians. That’s a good old school news story there. Very excited. , 37 secondsCheck. Check. We’ll check the questions one last time here. , 43 secondsAs long as as long as the help wanted Stein sades in this side of the border and no consequences fall on those who do the hiring, the exploitation will , 50 secondscontinue.

They are going after people that are uh that are not so much hiring but those who are who are having unpaid , 58 secondslabor. They are they are giving them hell. There’s the both civil cases from the DOJ. There’s criminal cases. Um but , 7 secondso overall, yeah, as long as that’s the policy, uh and there’s no consequences, yeah, we shouldn’t be surprised. , 19 secondsLuke Fire says, “Not feeling my take on on the ice and dugan situation.” Hey, it’s not a super popular one. I get it. , 25 secondsBut that the financials of Epstein is the most important thing everyone needs to see to expose the networks. Again, with Larry Summers there, dude was, you know, president of Harvard and all this. , 34 secondsEpstein gets nailed for child trafficking.

10 years later, Summers is still having him do dating advice and he , 43 secondscan get him tickets to Davos. These people hung out with Jeffrey Epste because Epstein could do something for him even though he was a grotesque criminal. , 52 secondsWhy? That’s the real question. Why were they able to do all this stuff? Why? Why was he able? Who still listened to him? , 2 secondsWho were his? Okay, we’ve seen eight million pictures of Bill Clinton and a bunch of Kevin Spacy. We got it. Who , 9 secondselse did did Epstein work with? How did he get tickets to Davos? Who who did Epstein text when Larry Summers is like, , 16 seconds”Hey, I want I want tickets to Davos.” Did Epstein text, you know, who did he text to get those Davos tickets?

, 23 secondsThose are the real Epstein files. Those are the ones I want, you know, and the poor the poor people who um , 31 secondsuh the poor people who are victims of this, I you know, I don’t want them bothered. I want to know who who Epstein was friends with. Give me a list. , 41 secondsYou know, that’s millions upon millions of of files. , 47 secondsAnd um you know, it’s not surprising the Trump administration just dumped out a bunch of photos. , 54 secondsYou know, maybe maybe we’ll get these at at at some point. Jenny’s got more more comments on Epstein’s Yeah, real stuff. So, Jenny, you following this? You’re following this correctly. He allegedly funded , 8 secondsearly Bitcoin development liquid funding Limited Bar and JPM.

All roads are flashing 2008. He had a credit a he had , 17 secondsa um was it collateral debt obligation factory. , 23 secondsThat’s right. He was involved in the 2008 collapse, the timed terrorist operation against our economy. That’s exactly right with Epstein. , 35 secondsI I want all those files. Apparently, I’m just going to look at pictures of Gillan Maxwell on vacation in a flight suit or whatever. all the stupid stuff. , 45 secondsI had to just read the the declassified Epstein files. Now, um , 52 secondswhat did he do during the financial crisis? That that’s what I want to know. , 59 secondsSo, for those of you here tonight, if you’re not a subscriber to Game today on YouTube, please click subscribe, like, and all that good stuff.

Otherwise, , 8 secondsthank you so much for being here. Um, I’d really love to know who would you like who would you like me to interview , 15 secondson this thing? Uh, you know, who would you like as a guest? I’m I’m I’m open to all kinds of suggestions. So, uh, this , 24 secondswas fun for Friday night. Thank you so much and merry Christmas to you all and take care. See you again soon.

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