Steve Bannon Is More Dangerous Than You Realized
LIVE — Sunday, February 8, 2026 · 12:00 PM ET
A weekly news briefing on what most coverage is missing — including why Steve Bannon represents a more serious strategic threat than the cable-news framing suggests, and what the public should know about the Chinese biolab discovered operating in Nevada.
In this solo briefing, intelligence analyst Eric Garland walks through the week’s most consequential stories with a working analyst’s discipline: source evaluation, structural analysis, and the cognitive biases that distort how each story is being told. The week’s lead beat is Bannon — read not as a political personality but as a structural actor in a longer strategic game; the second beat is the unauthorized biolab story out of Nevada, which has not received the analytical attention its national security implications deserve.
This is not partisan commentary. It is a structured weekly read of what professional analysts are tracking that the broader media cycle has either missed or mischaracterized.
WHAT WE’LL COVER
– Why Steve Bannon is a more dangerous figure than the cable-news framing suggests
– The structural analyst’s read: Bannon as movement infrastructure, not personality
– The unauthorized Chinese biolab discovered operating in Nevada
– Why the biolab story has not received the security analysis it warrants
– Other items on the analyst’s desk this week
– How to read the news this week as an intelligence professional, not a partisan
ABOUT THE HOST
Eric Garland is a strategic intelligence analyst with three decades of experience briefing Fortune 500 boards, government agencies, and military planners. He is the founder of Competitive Futures and the host of Game Theory Today.
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And we are back here Sunday, February 8th, 2026, live to you from a very, very cold Vermont on the side of the mountain where I belong. Uh, this is Game Theory Today. Today’s episode of Bannon and Bolabs. Lots to discuss here on a very eventful week of of news. For those of you who caught the broadcast yesterday, uh I’m very excited to be back in my happy place where everyone’s talking about Epstein being tied to the Russian intelligence services. Uh busting on the Russians is one of my favorite things to do. We’re going to be talking a little bit more about the Chinese today and some biowarfare stuff they may have been up to. Um but plenty of time to answer questions. Lots going on here. you know, why do we do these broadcasts um when there should be a functional news media that helps us out?
Um not that I’m not happy to to act in such a capacity, but um you know, why is it that there’s much demand for let’s call it citizen uh news? Um we we saw , 9 secondsthis uh this week that the Washington Post laid off 30% of their staff followed by publisher uh Will Lewis , 18 secondsstepping down at the end of it and uh there have been many social media funerals for the careers of the , 25 secondsjournalists who ostensibly will just move on to another outlet that will hire them. I’m not quite sure why their , 32 secondsindustry uh merits that much more emotional of a coverage uh for you know what’s a minor blip in , 41 secondsthe economy to be perfectly honest. But um kind of brings us to one of our first stories here that I want to I want to , 49 secondscover which is about the director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard supposedly , 56 secondsand uh it the way that the Tulsi Gabbard story has been treated kind of highlights to me , 3 secondswhy we’re laying all these people off in major media and why it’s just not that , 10 secondsbig a deal to me.
In fact, I I think of what we call journalists um these days, most of them are up to no , 18 secondsgood, if not nothing very useful. And there’s no topic where they have been more dilitterious for the last several , 26 secondsyears as national security and intelligence in particular. Of course, , 33 secondsum I I went very public in 2016 talking about the role of the Russian intelligence services and other , 41 secondsintelligence services and other networks of agents, not just quote Russian spies, unquote uh in the 2016 election of , 50 secondsDonald Trump. Um a story that only got more interesting over time, but it was a story that was also badly mishandled. , 58 secondsUm, we had a lot of what this uh was called the Steel Dossier.
A British intelligence officer by the name of , 6 secondsChristopher Steel had been affecting our um our election coverage that whole year of 2016. , 16 secondsand the the media was taking a a leaked document that was also being used in the , 23 secondsforeign intelligence surveillance court, the Fisk, to produce a FISA warrant that went out on Trump’s campaign. So you had , 31 secondsa document that was purportedly of the highest national secrecy that was also given straight to journalists who went , 39 secondsand reported on it as if it were fact when in in reality was produced by a couple guys. Igor Danchchenko who was a , 47 secondsUkrainian national uh born in the Soviet Union who was working in Washington DC was nowhere near Moscow for to be a a , 57 secondsreliable source.
uh and a guy named Chuck Dolan who was a former official with uh the Clinton White House and was , 4 secondsan official with the Massachusetts Democratic Party who was a direct contractor of the Kremlin. he was a , 11 secondsforeign agent if anybody was. And that those were the actual authors, we’re told, of the Steel Dossier. And the , 19 secondsmedia reported that as gospel, just like it did uh anything that came out of Wikileaks during that campaign or , 27 secondsanything that came out of Wikileaks in 2013 or 2010 when they were just trafficking straight classified national , 33 secondsdefense information. So the uh the behavior of America’s corporate media , 41 secondswith regards to reporting on national security is pretty checkered.
It got even more checkered and the the play has been , 50 secondsum to just report something breathlessly as if it’s true. Especially if there’s a whistleblower somewhere in the mix, , 57 secondsthey’re supposed to, according to the these corporate media types, at the moment that they decide that they can , 5 secondsthey should be able to take over our national dialogue, they should be able to refer to classified intelligence and we’re supposed to believe whatever their , 14 secondsattorney says or whatever some journalist says that their leak of the national defense information isn’t just espionage under 18 US code 793 and , 23 secondsshould be prosecuted 20 years. Boom. No questions asked. It’s illegal.
It’s not journalism. Go to prison. No, no, no. , 29 secondsWe’re supposed to overlook that and then we’re supposed to um we’re supposed to stop everything and have our national , 37 secondsdialogue be taken over by whatever their version of events is. And the most recent version of this is a controversy , 46 secondsabout Tulsi Gabbard who apparently held on to some intelligence report that , 53 secondswas supposed to go somewhere. I got to tell you, I’ve read the details of this story a dozen times now and is hard for me to sum up for you because I think , 1 secondit’s intentional it that it’s this stupid. um it is supposed to be something you can’t easily describe so , 9 secondsthat you can just talk about um the controversy of it without discussing the merits of whatever the , 17 secondshell this is.
So you see this breathless headline up here, NSA, that’s the National Security Agency, our most , 24 secondspowerful uh largest and uh most secretive agency that does signals intelligence collection and analysis. , 32 seconds[clears throat] , 33 secondsThe NSA detected foreign intelligence phone call about a person close to Trump , 43 secondsand whistleblower says that Telsey Gabbard blocked agency from sharing , 50 secondsreport and delivered it to White House chief of staff. , 56 secondsNow, when this story came out about a week ago, I kept asking in the comments of whichever national security reporter , 4 secondswas pushing this, what’s the problem? What’s the story here? And why should we be rushing this whistleblower report out?
Why do I care? , 16 secondsAnd there was a chorus of bot farm type activity that filled in to yell, , 23 secondsincluding profanity and accusations of treasury and treason. Um, you’re just trying to cover up for Trump. And I just , 30 secondssay, well, what am I trying to cover up for Trump? What is anyone trying to cover up? Much less for Trump. What is it? What happened? Nobody can say what , 39 secondshappened here. So, I want to parse this sentence out here a little bit. NSA detected foreign intelligence phone call , 47 secondsabout a person close to Trump. Okay, so the NSA detected a phone call. Okay, that is definitely what they do. It was , 56 secondsa foreign phone call. Okay, that is what they’re legally allowed to do.
That’s all normal. It was a foreign intelligence phone call. I don’t really know what a foreign intelligence phone , 4 secondscall is. Um, if you picked up if you intercepted an audio , 11 secondsuh transmission like a phone call, which is, you know, when we set two , 17 secondsdevices up, they could be what we, you know, what we call a phone or they could be a Skype thing over your laptop. , 26 secondsThere’s a number of ways to get these signals from place to place these days. NSA has a big job. , 32 secondsUm, let’s say you link up two people who are talking in real time. Well, then they’re probably talking in a language , 40 secondsother than English, which um many many people speak English as their first language, but many other billions don’t.
, 48 secondsSo the NSA will capture they will somehow record the audio that goes that goes back and forth between these people , 57 secondsand then they will have somebody usually of the staff sergeant or lower rank in the military , 4 secondsget an audio recording whatever was said somebody trained to speak their language might be udu pashtu Korean Arabic , 12 secondswhatever um they will pay that guy to listen to what was said, translate it out, interpret it, and then deliver it , 21 secondsup to an analyst probably um who handles more than just the phone , 28 secondscalls or the audio or the language. Um there’s a whole career path in intelligence where you do things like , 35 secondsthis and um you know, they will then interpret whatever , 42 secondswas said, the the exact words.
This will go then to analysts , 48 secondswho will then go up the chain um and and decide what this maybe means in context of the larger , 58 secondsum view of whatever situation it is. Uh this might be how Korea is reacting to the American uh administration. This , 5 secondsmight be how Iran is thinking about the latest about Trump. Um, it might be Nigeria looking at uh they have a they , 14 secondsthey have they’re not necessarily friendly to us. They have a visit coming up to the White House with some dignitaries and they’re talking about , 22 secondssomebody a person close to Trump. Well, the man works at the White House, guys. , 29 seconds[laughter] , 30 secondsLike, he’s he’s busy all day every day.
, 34 seconds[laughter] Like, there’s tons of people that work at the White House who work with Donald Trump. , 39 secondsUm, now a foreign intelligence phone call, let’s say this is a country’s spies, might be saying something very , 46 secondsspecific about Trump or his inner circle in the White House. , 53 secondsBut I gather from the story that there was a lower level analyst who decides , 1 secondum out of nowhere that his his intelligence that he intercepted and maybe translated , 10 secondswasn’t taken seriously enough by his superiors and then lodges some kind of complaint with , 18 secondsthe um uh with the inspector general of the intelligence community. And this , 25 secondsimmediately uh I guess goes to the press.
It it had been sitting around for eight months. By the way, I’m not usually this fuzzy on , 35 secondsdetails. I have looked at this story for a a week now and it is this incoate. It is it is this , 43 secondsblurry and and difficult to to wrap your your your head around. I will say that the um an important detail is the law , 53 secondsfirm, the whistleblower law firm is run by a guy named Mark Zed. Um Zed has represented a number of whistleblowers , 1 secondhere and he is a registered foreign agent through a guy named John Ashccraftoft who used to be an attorney general. Ashcraftoft was a foreign agent for the moneyaunderers of 1MDB. , 12 secondsUm I uh and definitely the the the um the Democratic Republic of Congo , 20 secondswhich is generally seen as a very Russia connected uh regime.
Mark Zed was also a registered agent through the Ashcraftoft , 27 secondslaw firm for the DRC um quite in uh in its flavor. So, we have a , 36 secondsforeign agent who is representing whistleblowers um to say that there’s something that , 43 secondsthe director of national intelligence um has or has not done. , 51 secondsAnd apparently she told Susie Wilds, the chief of staff for for Donald Trump, , 59 secondsabout it instead of putting it through whatever the proper channels are. , 3 secondsUm, I’ve got an example of uh the the the text that was put forth by the Guardian, which is a bit different than what the New York Times pulled out here. , 15 secondsLast spring, the National Security Agency flagged an unusual call between two members of foreign intelligence.
I don’t know what a member of foreign intelligence is. Do you mean an officer? , 24 secondsUm, do you mean an official? This is different from country to country. who discussed a person close to Donald , 31 secondsTrump. According to the whistleblowers attorney who was briefed on details of the call. So the source for this story , 38 secondsis one of Mark Zed’s people. Mark Zed who had his uh his security clearance pulled by the Trump administration. Now , 46 secondshe’s got it back and this is what he’s doing with it. So the highly sensitive communicate which has royal Washington the past week has brought the attention , 55 secondswas brought to the attention of na director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabard who oversees like 17 other agencies and is otherwise busy.
So you , 3 secondshave one person said hey there’s there’s some people that were talking about someone close to Donald Trump. Okay. , 12 secondsBut rather than allowing NSA officials to distribute the information further, Gabbard took a paper copy of the intelligence directly to the president’s , 20 secondschief of staff. According to the attorney, who we’re all supposed to guess about how accurate this is. Okay. One day , 27 secondsafter the meeting, after meeting Wilds, Gabbard told the NSA not to publish the intelligence report. , 37 secondsOh, what? Okay. What kind of report are we talking about? an intelligence product that was going to made anyhow. , 43 secondsAre we talking about a report on the incident?
Exactly. , 48 secondsIt’s not clear. Instead, she instructed NSA officials to transmit the highly classified details directly to her office. , 57 secondsBai said the the attorney. Okay. Details the exchange between Gavin and the NSA were not shared directly with the , 5 secondsGuardian, nor have they been previously reported. nor has. So, the Guardian doesn’t even know what they’re talking about here. On on 17th April, a , 13 secondswhistleblower contacted the Office of Inspector General alleging Gabbard had blocked highly classified intelligence from routine dispatch, whatever routine , 22 secondsdispatch is. Uh, according again to his attorney who works for the foreign agent for uh the Democratic Republic of Congo.
, 30 secondsUm, according to the attorney who’s been briefed on details surrounding the highly sensitive phone call flagged by , 38 secondsthe NSA, um, by the way, something can be determined to be highly sensitive when it involves an extremely uh, classified , 46 secondssystem which we would collect information and we don’t want people to know that we’ve got X, Y, or Z system , 53 secondsum, hacked in another country. So maybe one of the reasons that you might want to be really tight about who’s been listened to and who’s been recorded , 3 secondsis we don’t want to give up what country we’re listening in. Um because they might think they have a new system that’s totally like they know we hacked , 12 secondsthe last one.
They’ve got the new one in. They don’t think this one’s been hacked yet, but it already has been. And we don’t want anyone to know that. And if you started talking about which , 20 secondscountry we had heard this in and what level of their country is this the is is this an intelligence officer in the , 27 secondsfield in a hotel bar somewhere or is the guy at in his headquarters talking to another guy at headquarters. , 34 secondsThat’s the job of these intelligence agencies and you know getting you know having these discussions about who can , 41 secondslisten to what when where that’s not really in our in our country’s interest cuz people will shut up if they know , 50 secondswe’ve hacked their system.
So we tend to like people to be dumb. , 56 secondsThis is why some stuff is classified kids. Even if you don’t like who won um , 3 secondsyou know, even if you don’t like who won the presidential election, you still probably want these agencies to be able , 10 secondsto listen overseas to protect us and you don’t want them to be set back five or 10 years in their work, especially when some countries do develop boweapons and nuclear weapons and all this stuff. , 21 secondsSo anyways, the rest of the Guardians um paragraph here. The Guardian reported earlier Saturday the phone conversation was between a person associated with , 29 secondsforeign intelligence. I I thought these were members of foreign intelligence.
, 32 secondsNow they’re just associated with are they fan are they are they part of an Instagram group? Uh they do they follow foreign intelligence on Twitter or are , 40 secondsthey members? I think I mean uh based on Bakai’s rec recollection of , 48 secondsthe complaint which he confirmed over multiple calls. However, after publication, the attorney says he misspoke. , 55 secondsOkay, we we all we all follow this. The Guardian reported earlier Saturday the phone conversation was between a person associated with foreign intelligence and , 3 secondsa person close to Trump based on the attorney’s recollection of the complaint, which he confirmed over multiple calls. However, he was He clarified his understanding , 10 secondsof the complaint in a statement.
The NSA picked up a phone call between two members of foreign intelligence involving someone close to the Trump , 17 secondsWhite House. The NSA does not monitor Zip. Okay. So, do you understand why I’m , 24 secondsnot going to miss any of the guys at the Washington Post or the Guardian or anybody? Because this is actually really , 31 secondsimportant stuff. you know, if we’re going to make allegations about some , 38 secondssome political figure being compromised, um, which many of them are, this this whole story about about Epstein and the , 46 secondsBrits and the Russians and the Israelis, this is about the people that work for our democracies that are secretly being blackmailed because they’re part of a , 55 secondschild trafficking record.
All right? And any of these foreign countries that know that they can blackmail a a political figure over being part of a child , 3 secondstrafficking ring, they have to do that other what that country wants. You’re going to do what Vladimir Putin wants um or Xi Jinping wants rather than what , 13 secondsyour constituents want. And that is the corruption that we can’t tolerate here. , 16 secondsSo, we need to understand those stories and they involve national security and they involve spy agencies , 26 secondsand we still have the shittiest possible coverage of these of these spy agencies because, you know, I’m trying to understand this nontroversy with Tulsi. , 37 secondsUm, and I’m trying to go through the New York Times or the Guardian where they don’t even keep the same story , 45 secondsthroughout the paragraphs in their own article and they can’t keep control of any of the of the terminology, the , 53 secondsvocabulary.
They’re a member of foreign intelligence, associated with foreign intelligence. Like, no, no, no, no. , 58 secondsThat’s why the professionals will say this person was an officer with, you know, they were a Mossad officer, a , 6 secondsdeclared officer, undeclared officer, non-official cover. You’re going to hear the terminology of exactly who this person was. Was this person in the , 14 secondsRussian mafia? Were they an associate of the mafia? Because those are different things, too. Whether you’re a made man in an organization and whether you are just a scumbag who occasionally works in , 23 secondsBrighton Beach who happens to know all too many people named Sergey and Ilia th those those terms matter.
Um whether you , 31 secondsare a a consular officer working in a consulate who works regularly with the , 39 secondsintelligence service of your country which is kind of expected or if you’re actually an intelligence officer from that country. Those distinctions matter , 47 secondstoo. And supposedly the news that that’s what they’re supposed to they’re supposed to pay these people to to go , 55 secondsget those details. But yet again, we have a story here where nobody’s getting the the real details. So I I go and drag , 2 secondsout the letter from uh the inspector general of the intelligence community and it says yeah uh this letter from , 9 secondsJune 625 says yeah we got your complaint [laughter] and we may or may not talk to , 17 secondsCongress about it.
You guys can read the letter at your uh at at at your leisure here. Um, you , 24 secondsknow, it just says pursuant to 50 US code section 3033K 5B, the inspector general couldn’t determine if the allegations appear credible. So, you , 32 secondsknow, this could be complete horse bucky. And, you know, it went through the proper channels, but this is five five months ago. This is something that started so, you know, a while ago. , 44 secondsBut now you got Mark Z’s got his security clearance back and his whistleblower outfit is putting out these stories. Um, what’s really going , 52 secondson here though is Tulsi Gabbard has two cases that she’s involved in that may go public soon. It’s a big , 1 seconddeal.
The first one is the grand jury uh in Fort Pierce uh down in the southern district of , 8 secondsFlorida that is impanled to handle the criminality around the steel dossier which I mentioned that you know we’ve , 15 secondsgot communications I believe from John Brennan’s attorneys. He was former head , 22 secondsof the CIA that John Brennan is planning on being arrested presently. , 28 secondsAnd one imagines that he he is not going to be alone. There was a number of people involved in getting the steel dossier , 38 secondsinto the intelligence community assessment of 2016 which was released to , 45 secondsthe media in different forms with the intent of sabotaging , 52 secondsTrump’s presidency which started in 2017.
Now remember who you talking to. , 57 secondsThis is the game theory guy here. I’m totally down with exploring what what , 4 secondsimpact the Russians had on everybody around Trump and then Trump himself, right? , 9 secondsIn fact, one of the guys we’re going to be talking about today, Steve Bannon, you know, Bannon , 17 secondswas financed by the Mercers and the Mercers got their money from Russia in part. I think is very fair to call , 25 secondsBannon a Russian agent. I think it’s fair to call Bannon a Chinese agent. , 29 secondsEverything but a patriotic American. You can call that guy. And he was Trump’s campaign chairman in 2016. I think all , 36 secondsthat’s fair. Um I think Paul Maniffort worked for Vladimir Putin.
I I am one of the few guys that’s actually read the , 45 secondsMueller report cover to cover. Um and it’s it’s done it’s done wonderfully. It , 51 secondsis a it is still a very good piece of of prosecution and of research and national , 59 secondssecurity. It is it is still good literature. It’s very careful and it does not it does not lead to a conclusion that Donald Trump needed to , 7 secondsbe um impeached or that he needed to be prosecuted. And given the seriousness of , 15 secondsthe the allegations and the prosecutions that that targeted people all around Trump that year of 2016 and 17, all , 24 secondsthose guys, they’ve definitely found Russians. They they found bad actors. , 29 secondsTrump wasn’t necessarily one of them, though.
And you know, that that’s a very important piece of work there. So, I am , 38 secondsvery very I’m very sympathetic to looking at the impact the Russians had on the 2016 and 2020 and 2024 elections. , 51 secondsUm, but it also seems very likely that there was a conspiracy to sabotage Trump’s presidency. Um, and that the , 59 secondsintelligence community assessment that came out in 2016 um didn’t just say the Russians had an impact on our election. They said that , 8 secondsRussia preferred Trump. In reality, the intelligence said that they were expecting Hillary Clinton to win. They were not expecting Trump to win. , 19 secondsThe what you’re going to see Brennan and possibly former DNI Jim CL or ODNI, sorry, DNI director of national , 26 secondsintelligence James Clapper.
Um, what you’re potentially going to see them arrested for is for a criminal , 36 secondsconspiracy to fabricate intelligence that the Russians preferred Donald Trump to , 43 secondsHillary Clinton. And I I don’t believe the intelligence actually said that. And there was a lot of deception , 51 secondsum around that. and and Tulsi as director of national intelligence, she , 58 secondshas the legal remmit to investigate all that stuff around what all those agencies did or in in the case of the uh , 5 secondsthe 2016 2017 intelligence community assessment about Trump and Russia, what they were what they were kept from doing, why they were why state , 14 secondsdepartment INR was kept from making recommenations to the working group um just prior to Trump taking office, why , 23 secondsthe DIA was locked out.
Those were two agencies that had a lot to say about that and they weren’t allowed to. In fact, you had to listen to John , 30 secondsBrennan’s CIA and certain parts of the FBI and the uh the output speaks for itself. , 37 secondsIt’s pretty troublesome. Um Neil’s got something good on Mr. , 42 secondsBannon here. Um, so Tulsa’s got that one story there of uh the the grand jury that’s , 52 secondsabout to come out and what the credibility of the DNI is going to be very important. So we have this fake news story about this um this , 1 secondintelligence [snorts] analyst who reportedly didn’t didn’t think the analyst above him took it seriously enough of the call that was intercepted. , 12 secondsSo now everybody’s in this sort of Sophie’s choice.
Do we either make it look like we’re hiding the complaints of intelligence analysts, intelligence , 20 secondsanalysts who for most of their career should shut up [laughter] and let their bosses handle things, which is how this works. Um, do do but do we make it look , 29 secondslike we’re not taking serious complaints seriously or do we expose the existence of certain programs and , 37 secondsand get into this de like an unclassified or declassified discussion of what with what’s the call from, who were we listening to, which is this , 46 secondssomething the Russians would totally love for us to have to go into our NSA and admit to what we can spy on. So, I , 54 secondsthink Mark Zed’s up to his normal tricks here and the media goes right along with it and everybody acts everybody acts , 1 secondsuper dumb about it and um that’s why you know the quicker the corporate media goes out out of business happier I am , 8 secondsthere.
So, we have some other important national uh national intel national security stuff to talk about. Our man Neil over , 16 secondsin the UK says what was that video Bannon did with Miles Quo. Yes, take down the CCP. That was terrible. So, we’re going , 25 secondsto get into uh couple stories here about um this bolab, speaking of the Chinese , 33 secondsand the CCP u that was exposed out in um in Nevada. , 40 secondsAnd also, I want to start the discussion about Steve Bannon. I got a lot to say about Steve Bannon, but um , 47 secondsuh Neil’s question here. What was that video Bannon did with Miles Wo? Miles Guo a aka Guoeni aka Miles Quac uh is a , 56 secondsChinese national who’s living in the United States.
I believe is in prison now. Um he tried to he [laughter] tried to write a letter I think to the judge , 3 secondsin Sean Diddy Combmes case to say how much Diddy has been learning and growing as an individual when he was in the Metropolitan Detention Center in , 12 secondsBrooklyn which you can’t even make that up. Um, yeah. You know, Bannon and Guo , 20 secondswere both pretending to be, you know, anti-China, but I think, you know, , 29 secondsBannon’s shtick is pretending to be America first when he’s part of a, you know, he’s one , 37 secondsof Jeffrey Epstein’s friends. He’s part of a global attempt to take down democracy. So yeah, what better way for , 46 secondssome people to try and attack America and Western democracy than to pretend to be , 54 secondsum some of the harshest critics of foreign um , 2 secondsuh you know foreign dictatorships.
The the Soviets of course pioneered this over a hundred years ago and it was , 9 secondscalled controlled opposition. I forget the quote exactly from Lenin but it’s we are not afraid we are not afraid of , 19 secondsthe opposition because we’re going to be the opposition and um , 27 secondsyou know there’s a there there have been a lot of such people here I think both left and right has figures , 36 secondsum that [clears throat] are claiming that they they want something. , 43 secondsUm, let’s say you have people on the left that say they they want uh more prosperity uh to be spread more broadly. , 52 secondsUh but in reality they’re just causing a lot of heat and conflict with their fellow citizens and people on the right , 59 secondswho say they want freedom but who are very very comfortable um you know with authoritarian government.
, 8 secondsAnd that seems to be Bannon’s uh Bannon’s niche there, which is um which going to , 18 secondsgoing to lead to discussion of uh a situation that’s speaking of anybody that might be in bed uh with Chinese there. , 27 secondsWe had a we had a raid here um a few days ago in Nevada um where they , 36 secondsthe there was a a home in Nevada that was owned um and , 44 secondscontrolled by a Chinese national who is who was charged in 2023 , 52 secondsuh and I believe Reedley, California um out by by Fresno. And that was a very concerning case. This is a second facility that is in , 8 secondsLas Vegas that was even uh even more upsetting , 18 secondsto discuss. Um and it’s got it makes it look like there has been a very important uh national security threat , 28 secondshere against the United States that we’re just now um uncovering.
So this is the complaint against Jabu aka Jesse , 36 secondsJugh and uh David and , 43 secondsthe these these look um pretty pretty unremarkable misbranded uh 22 21 US code , 49 secondssection 331 misbranded medical devices and uh the standard 18 US code 101 full statements. So, it doesn’t doesn’t look doesn’t look , 9 secondslike too big a deal there until you start getting into what was really going , 15 secondson, which they had thousand transgenic mice who , 22 secondsuh that were I got pictures of the mice. , 28 secondsAll this is very groy, guys. Um, they had um about a thousand mice that , 36 secondswere that were genetically engineered to be able to catch and pass on the COVID 19 virus.
and the , 46 secondsuh the Jubet story, the the malifactor here , 52 secondsum from from California originally I think got into Canada in , 59 secondsthe 2000s where he was committing a lot of fraud in the in the bullsean , 6 secondssex chromosome market which I got to say I have I have done a lot of investigation of a lot of grody , 13 secondsUm, but that’s the hell of a sentence , 16 seconds[snorts] , 16 secondsright there. Um, and he made his way, he got thrown out of Canada, I believe. He made his way here and there was an , 23 secondsIsraeli citizen who owned the house in Las Vegas. The place in in China or in California got taken down. There’s a lot , 30 seconds[clears throat] going on here, kids.
Um, so this is from the most recent report. , 36 secondsa man accused of running an illegal biolab in federal court suspected of having ch ties to a Chinese national known for , 45 secondsoperating a lab in California. The FBI raided the home on Saturday of Ory Solomon, 55, who police said operated a suspected laboratory that included , 53 secondsrefrigerators and vials containing unknown liquids. Court documents said federal agencies for handguns, blah blah blah. He’s got uh he’s got a work visa. , 3 secondsHe’s not allowed to possess any guns. , 5 secondsUm, the guy really behind this facility is already in federal custody. They were renting this place out on Airbnb. , 14 secondsPeople who stayed at the place um became quote deathly ill and bedridden.
[laughter] , 23 secondsUm, and the home may be linked to the Chinese Communist Party. It’s sounds , 30 secondspretty bad, right? Um, Republican from California, Kevin Kylie, has been been all over this and as has been uh the , 39 secondsreport from the um the there’s a committee to investigate Chinese Communist Party that’s in com in , 48 secondsCongress right now. They’re looking at all this and um Kylie uh Kylie’s made some comments that , 56 secondsuh this guy has come to North America, set up do dozens of corporations to steal American intellectual property unlawfully trans transferred to China. , 6 secondsAfter Canadian authorities accused Mr. , 8 secondsZu of committing fraud on an epic scale, he fled to the US and started multiple businesses including the illegal biolab in Weedley, California.
By the way, you , 16 secondsknow, for for everybody out there, um, you know, who’s like super opposed to ICE, this is the stuff ICE is supposed , 25 secondsto do, and only ICE does. They find out that somebody is here illegally. They get intelligence. , 33 secondsUh, and I don’t want to argue about whether or not that’s happening in um if that’s what’s happening in Minneapolis, , 40 secondswhich is not the only place. Of course, ISIS is doing their thing. They were getting rid of cartel folks in Texas, in Florida, in Vermont, in Maine, all over , 49 secondsthe place. It’s in Minneapolis where they decided to make a stand and we’ve got these professional agitators that are in there and people have been shot , 56 secondsand it’s it’s rough stuff.
But this is the kind of stuff that ICE really does, which is they they find some guy who is , 5 secondshere illegally, not supposed to be here, and you know, they’ll get a tip from security investigations, FBI, foreign intelligence partners, and they will , 14 secondsfind this guy, and they, you know, I I don’t know if you’re getting the sense of this kid. This guy’s dangerous. This [clears throat] is this is somebody who , 22 secondsis not anything uh very nice, you know. So , 30 secondsuh state inspectors in December 2022, this is during the Biden administration, first came across the Reley lab, which was only licensed to sell COVID 19 and , 39 secondspregnancy tests. The pregnancies, you know, in vitro diagnostics, which they weren’t licensed to do, by the way.
So all of this is just every red flag you , 49 secondscould possibly imagine. Here the inspectors find Chinese nationals in the lab who are running experiments on the mice that were genetically engineered to catch and carry the CO 19 virus. , 58 secondsAccording to the nightmare fuel congressional report, Mr. Kylie said federal lawmakers prodded the CDC to look into the lab where investigators , 6 secondsdiscovered at least 20 potentially in infectious agents including HIV, tuberculosis, and the deadliest known , 13 secondsform of malaria. They also found something labeled Ebola in there. , 21 secondsMr. Kylie says, “This can’t keep happening. The federal government must do more to stop illegal labs from from , 28 secondsoperating.” Um, yeah.
So, I I looked up the criminal complaint against Zu and them and this , 36 secondscompany. Um uh they he was ordered this this guy Zu before he came to the United States was , 43 secondsordered to pay over $300 million for misappropriating technology related to the separation of sex chromosomes , 51 secondsfrom bullsemen. So this guy was already a third of a billion dollars into fraud involving bullsemen when he came to [laughter] the United States. I guess I’m still like 13 years old. Um, yes, it’s gross and funny, but it’s also this is serious biowarfare , 10 secondsstuff. Um, I like I got to the end of the um uh , 17 secondsI got to the the end of of the report and it was actually pretty of the congressional report on Reedley.
Um, and , 26 secondsI thought it was pretty controlled. At at a minimum, the Reedle Bolab shows the profound threat that unlicensed and unknown biolabs pose to our country. At , 34 secondsworst, this investigation revealed significant gaps in our nation’s defense and pathogen related regulations that present a grave national security looks that could be exploited in the future. , 42 secondsIt was therefore incumbent upon Congress to address these. That’s that’s pretty calm. [laughter] , 49 secondsI mean, we have Chinese nationals who came in just prior to the co 19 , 57 secondspandemic which shut the country down and which you know scared the hell out of us and you know resulted , 6 secondsum um you know which resulted in a lot of authoritarian , 13 secondsthings like you know people were being told you can’t go places unless you get this uh vaccine which full disclosure I , 21 secondsgot you know um if you don’t get but if you don’t get the vaccine we need to shut schools down and you can’t go certain places.
You need to identify , 28 secondsyourself. You need to give a sample of, you know, to some of a cheek squad. I forget how , 36 secondsthey were doing it. Um, you know, but they’re taking biological samples from people. Um, we had foreign countries here that were , 45 secondsscrewing around on US soil who were, you know, they were applying for licenses to do CO 19 testing. , 54 secondsThey weren’t licensed ultimately. They were also getting involved in like in vitro diagnostics. So they’re taking biological samples from US citizens on , 2 secondsUS soil related to genetics. They’re doing experiments on transgenic mice. , 8 secondsThat’s just straight up bio warfare people. And that’s been happening on US soil.
Got a good comment here. I want to , 17 secondsum want to raise it up here. Julius Caesar. A Caesar. A Kaiser. This is more along the lines of I FBI ICE don’t have the expertise or competence of this. , 28 secondsFair enough. I’m not sure anybody really has the competence for this. Uh you know ISIS’s job is when you know when they , 35 secondsget the administrative warrant which is completely legally sound by the way noticial warrant an administrative warrant that somebody ain’t here and , 43 secondsthey got to go. Um it’s their job to go get them. Um whether FBI doesn’t have the comp competence for this kind of thing. I would disagree. it’s FBI that , 52 secondsuh investigated this. Um, you know, that said, you know, it’s funny.
There was a quote from George W. Bush back in the day. Um, it was, uh, they hate us for our freedoms. This is after 9/11. I don’t think they hate us for our freedoms. , 11 secondsI think they hate us through our freedoms, if you know what I mean. I think they use our I think there are are , 18 secondsum desperates out there who use our freedoms to target us to harm us and um , 29 secondsyou know we allow a lot of freedom of movement in this country. We allow people to come in. We have been we have been , 37 secondsuh not very um rigorous about allowing undocumented immigrants around , 44 secondshere. Some of whom are just trying to make a living. Some of them whom are going to be great citizens in the United States at some point.
Some of whom are , 52 secondsnot here for that at all. I think we can all agree that if you come into the United States after having committed , 59 seconds$300 million worth of bullsemen related fraud and you immediately start setting up unlicensed biolabs with with small , 7 secondscreatures designed to carry infectious disease, you’re not here for the right reasons. , 15 secondsJust a thought. So, the Bolabs, uh, that was probably the biggest story of a week , 24 secondsthat had a ton of them that went by. But I just wanted to raise this up for the audience is like we do have people out , 31 secondsthere that want to harm all of us um, and do so through some very gruesome , 40 secondsways. Bio biowarfer is no joke, man.
I’m getting some comments on it and I want to respond to those. So, no coincidence , 48 secondsthat our FDA and CDC have been decimated or withdrawal from who? Thank you, Mr. Garland. Thank you, Nora Rivers. , 53 secondsAppreciate that. Uh that that is a that is a sharp eye and I’m glad you brought it up. Um our , 2 secondswithdrawal from the World Health Organization, let us not forget that that had a bunch of Jeffrey Epstein’s people up in there. One of and I’m always going to mention him as one of , 11 secondsEpstein’s. Bill Gates is, you know, I think more run by Epstein than the other way around. Um, , 19 secondsa deeply weird and questionable individual who, uh, has a lot of money and influence.
He was like the number , 28 secondsthree donor to the World Health Organization. , 32 secondsAnd it’s funny, Trump Trump stepped to Bill Gates during the run-up to COVID. , 39 secondsAnd there were some some of uh some allegation or some innuendo really not even the to the level of allegation. , 47 secondsThere was innuendo about Bill Gates somehow being involved and um Bill Gates has a an enduring interest , 58 secondsin viology. I believe if memory serves he does own IP on ultraviolet light that would break up viruses. So when Trump , 6 secondscomes out and says maybe we could just shine a light on it as Trump does, he says he does he says some of the wildest , 12 secondsstuff in the dumbest tone of voice that some of us who’ve been around know that oh he’s referencing stuff he knows about , 22 secondsthat is real.
He just make it’s fascinating. Trump’s style I find very engaging. I think he’s this is why I think he’s smarter than people realize. , 31 secondsHe frontf faces, he threatens some bad people sometimes and goes, “I know about you. I know about you and your light that’ll break up viruses.” , 40 secondsUm, well, that that was Gates, I believe, who who had um who had some intellectual property , 48 secondsaround that. And Gates is financing the World Health Organization. So, it’s not entirely clear to me the World Health Organization wasn’t without some , 56 secondscompromise issues. Bill Gates is a bad enough sign, but I think there are others too. Now, as far as FDC and CDC , 4 secondsare concerned, they they started getting rid of a lot of like foreigners out of our labs is my understanding.
And I I can’t go into it, , 12 secondsbut throughout my career, which is almost uh three next year, it’ll be 30 solid years. Um the FD, let’s put it , 21 secondsthis way, the FDA and CDC have had some issues. , 25 secondsUm, you know, some of them are related to vaccines, many of them regulated to are related to regular medicine. That’s , 33 secondsall I’ll say for now. Um, so, you know, whether Trump’s cuts to those organizations are the right ones, I , 41 secondsdon’t know. I don’t know exactly got rid of, but they weren’t those agents weren’t th those agencies were not , 49 secondsrunning perfectly, put it that way. So, keep an open mind on it. I’m glad you brought uh that up. , 57 secondsOh, got another uh got another question here on on a different different topic here.
Did the did the steel dossier , 4 secondsfirst go slashfunded by Rubio? This gets brought up a lot and I think it’s an important question. The steel the steel dossier was first financed , 14 secondsthrough Marco Rubio’s campaign through his donor Paul Singer who is of Elliot , 22 secondsum Elliot Capital Management Elliot investment uh anyway the Elliot management um Paul Singer is a a , 31 secondsbillionaire who’s known for high jinks such as uh profiting off Argentinian currency and debt pops stuff like that. , 40 secondsHe He’s um very influential man and he was the first guy to fund , 48 secondsthe dossier through Fusion GPS uh which has been a contractor to some , 56 secondsKremlin connected figures.
If you’ll remember, Fusion GPS also worked for Previsan, which was an Italian visit , 4 secondsskaya. Ironic, I know, because they tried to do the gotcha on the Trump people, was saying, “Hey, you met with Natalyia Desitskaya, who of course is , 13 secondsconnected to the the prosecutor in Moscow, blah blah blah. She’s, you know, nice Russian spy girl.” And the Trump people met with her uh through some intermediaries. , 23 secondsWell, the steel people who put the steel dossier together worked for her. , 29 secondsUm [snorts] so what happened was the steel dossier was first funded uh initially from Paul Singer through the Rubio campaign and , 37 secondsthen Mark Elias from Perkins Kooie picked it up and kept funding it through Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
, 46 secondsUh, in fact, I I fully expect that that whole crew may get indicted probably for moneyaundering because I believe the um , 54 secondsthe way that those expenses were carried by the Clinton campaign were problematic. We shall see. But the , 3 secondsidea that I think the idea that it was a Republican operation and not a Democratic operation sometimes gets put , 11 secondsin a in a um it’s some it it gets put in a uh partisanship , 19 secondsum lens to say that well the Republicans had a very good reason to be concerned , 26 secondsabout Trump. And hey, Trump was Trump’s campaign manager somehow was Paul Maniffort, who worked for the Party of , 34 secondsRegions in Ukraine, which was the PRP Putin party.
I mean, I’ve already said there’s plenty of reasons to suspect that Trump had something going on with , 42 secondsRussia, but I think the Steel Dossier going from the Rubio campaign to the Clinton campaign in order to create this , 51 secondsnarrative um that I think was was a narrative that was going to be used to shame the FBI , 59 secondswhen Hillary Clinton won because everyone expected Hillary Clinton to win, including Trump, including Clinton, including Russia. We know that [snorts] , 7 secondsum I think the Steel Dossier was an operation to try and sabotage the FBI to get the FBI off Clinton’s back when she , 15 secondswas president and it went horribly wrong. And this is not what anybody expected.
Um so I don’t think of the , 22 secondsSteel Dossier as a partisan thing. I think of it as a Russian intelligence operation. , 31 secondsSo, John’s briefcase, which is a pretty good That’s a pretty good avatar. I like that. That’s a Nixon reference for those , 39 secondsof you [laughter] out [snorts] there. Um, I believe, has your thesis or theory on Trump evolved in 10 years. Sorry if I’m late. You’re , 47 secondsnot late. Thanks for being here. Yeah, it has. I mean, you look, I’ve called for Trump to to uh die in prison before, , 54 secondsand I’m not doing that anymore. Um my thesis has evolved in 10 years because we’ve just got this massive amount of , 1 secondinformation and stuff that um stuff has emerged that has completely changed how I how I would have reacted to events , 11 secondslike if I had understood that the intelligence community assessment that came out in late December of 2016 , 18 secondswas substantially different from the same product that was produced two months prior.
I believe it was September , 25 seconds2016, the intelligence community um had , 33 secondsto mess with our election. uh they were hacking databases here and there, a lot of normal things, but they didn’t have a , 40 secondsclear preference for either candidate, which actually really that that really comports with what my understanding, , 48 secondswhich is reflected in my my game theory thread of December 2016. , 53 secondsMy understanding of Russian strategy versus tactics. The Russian the Russian strategy , 1 secondis to create chaos wherever and then use your ample tactical abilities because the Russians are the best at covert , 9 secondsoperations. Said it 10 years ago. I’m ready to say it now.
There’s nobody as good as them. , 15 secondsAnd respect them or they will embarrass you. They will hurt you badly. um their their strategy is to cause chaos in your , 24 secondsculture and then use tactics to exacerbate whatever. , 31 secondsAs such, they wouldn’t necessarily have a preference for which candidate should win because they need to be prepared for , 38 secondseither candidate to win in our system and they would have a a strategy for both or you know a preferred set of tactics for both. They’re gonna whoever , 46 secondswins, they’re going to attack a million different ways. , 50 secondsUm, and intelligence community came out and said, “This is different. They preferred a guy this time.
They preferred Trump.” That was influential , 58 secondson me because I assumed that they had a bunch in the back room that was so bad. , 3 secondsAnd I had been hearing stuff about that throughout 2016 um from different people. Um, I assumed that they would , 12 secondsnever involve themselves in an election like that unless they had something significant. And when I found out that what they really had in the back room , 21 secondswas they cut out the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, they cut out the State Department, and they jammed the Steel Dossier in in the appendix , 30 secondsto say that Trump was essentially preferred by the Russians. and they didn’t have anything s significant that’s that suggested that statement.
, 41 secondsAnd now we know from the Trade Craft review, and I’ve done a video on this channel, um, one of my more static, uh, , 48 secondsvideos, not a live stream, of exactly what the the Tradecraft review of the intelligence community assessment said, , 56 secondsthat the the professional analysts were very concerned that John Brennan, the CIA director, had an outsized effect on , 6 secondshow that was all written. And the fact that the A was under a lot of time pressure, like over Christmas break, , 15 secondslike they they had like two days, I think the 21st and 22nd of December of 2016 or something to look over what , 24 secondssupposedly 17 agencies had to say about whether Trump was in Russia’s pocket or not.
That was way, way too quick. Um , 34 secondsthe um you know if I had known that they had cut out the State Department and the DIA , 42 secondsthe way they did that kind of crap during the Iraq war. Um if I had god damn if I had I known that that piece of , 49 seconds steel dossier had been a significant part of of their , 57 secondsuh their conclusions. I never I never would have supported that. And I I think I would have thought very differently , 4 secondsabout Donald Trump. Um but when this when you know so I feel like I’m the victim as are all the American people. , 13 secondsUm and as as is Donald Trump I think when the CIA got involved in our election which has no legal right to do , 22 secondsthey were and the CIA have to understand how the the authority structure works which is they respond directly to the president of the United States.
They’re , 30 secondsalmost like, you know, Marine Force Recon or Delta Force. Like they they go out and they they do what the president wants. They , 37 secondstake actions on behalf of the United States. As a result, you cannot involve the election because there’s already guys sitting in the office. , 48 secondsAnd [clears throat] he if so the actions of the CIA implicate President Barack Obama because , 57 secondsthe CIA takes his orders and by running with that piece of steel dossier. , 5 secondsBarack Obama is implicated and I think you know if you want to get into criminal prosecution over this kind of thing that’s extremely complicated , 13 secondsbecause there is executive privilege that is implied.
Um, you know, we want future presidents to be able to take certain actions during an election year , 22 secondseven to protect America’s democracy, to protect our elections. So, we don’t want to be second-guessing all that when we don’t have the right to access much of , 30 secondsthe national defense information. But the way it all came down in 2016, the effect that the the CIA had and , 37 secondscontinued to have after the election, after the inauguration, which then led , 44 secondsto interpreted um some of the actions of the perfect phone call with you with Ukraine, which led to his first impeachment. , 53 secondsI all of that the the the relationship that all that had to the Central Intelligence Agency , 1 secondand certain elements within the FBI and no doubt others throughout the government was extremely unhealthy.
, 8 secondsAnd that’s stuff that we couldn’t have known at the time. Everything just felt like much more of an emergency. And you had guys like Steve Bannon, who I do , 16 secondswant to talk about today. Um, you had Steve Bannon in the White House, one of Jeffrey Epstein’s closest confidants in , 24 secondswho was chief strategist of for Trump in 2017. Now, he was out by 2018. , 30 secondsUm, and he apparently went straight to his buddy Epste in 2018 to to help Epste , 37 secondsclean his reputation up and to do other things related to child trafficking apparently. um but Bannon was in the the , 45 secondsTrump White House in 2017 18 and um you know made a lot of this just seem , 52 secondslike uh an emergency and we just did you know we had it was the middle of 2017 when the Mueller investigation started right so at that time we didn’t know what it was going to find and of course Mueller , 8 secondsinvestigation found all these Russian int intelligence officers involved and um we we learned , 16 secondsthe name Constantine Kilimnik who was Paul Paul Maniffort’s right hand when he , 22 secondsworked um for the Ukrainian government that was pro Putin and apparently or , 30 secondsreportedly I should say Maniffort handed thumb drives full of Republican voter data directly to Constantine Kilimnik , 39 secondswho was a linguist with the the Russian army.
Now, if you’re in my business, anytime , 47 secondssomebody’s born in Russia in a certain period of time and their specialty is foreign languages like English, they’re spies. End of report. Nice having this conversation with you. They’re spies. , 57 secondsUm, you know, Paul Manifford got prosecuted. , 3 secondsUm, you know, they dropped uh I think I I I forget where if the prosecution went anywhere, if it was moved because of , 10 secondssovereignty, but they, you know, they indicted a bunch of Russian intelligence military officers um down to their patronic middle names. , 19 secondsThey know exactly who was fooling around in the GRU, Russian military intelligence. , 25 secondsUm, then you got Mike Flynn and other guys.
Um, but uh that was all during the Trump , 32 secondsyears. that was all coming out and that doesn’t let the people at the CIA off the hook for what they’ve done , 39 secondsbecause it clouded the issue. Now, I think the real the real truth of it is we had foreign agents on both sides and in both parties and they were , 47 secondssurrounding us and some of those foreign agents are they’re directly tied to hostile foreign intelligence services and some of them , 56 secondsum and and some of them are more domestic agents, you know, who work for , 4 secondswho work as part of like Jeffrey Epstein’s network and they serve ve the , 12 secondsconcentration of power in this tiny elite that apparently really likes to um abuse children and they all work , 21 secondstogether transnationally.
Um kind of queuing on stuff if you must but uh that’s who was [snorts] having a , 30 secondsdilitterious effect on our on our countries all over the place not just the United States and they they don’t fit in an easy category. You can’t just , 37 secondssay, “Oh, they work for Mossad, whatever that means. They work for the Russian intelligence services.” You know, very few individuals involved in this , 47 secondswere trained in a foreign country as an intelligence officer and you know are what you most people , 55 secondswould think of as a spy. Most other folks have a dilitterious effect on our on our democratic infrastructure and on , 1 minute, 3 secondsour societies and they work for themselves for the most part.
Now they may be carrying out the orders of , 1 minute, 10 secondssomebody who works for another country and I think those people have been throughout our elites. They’ve been throughout our political parties and that’s who we’re really fighting here. , 1 minute, 22 secondsAnd I can say after 10 years of looking at this every single day, I have a much more granular and refined uh point of , 1 minute, 30 secondsview. I’m I’m an intelligence professional, which means I’m wrong all the time. , 1 minute, 35 secondsYou know, um every day I’m wrong. The question is, am I useful? Am I telling you something that you didn’t know? and , 1 minute, 43 secondsam I telling it to you in a way that you think differently and that you might reach a different conclusion and take a different action that you might have , 1 minute, 50 secondsbefore you met me.
Um, so I’m not afraid to be wrong. Um, so I uh I have been wrong about Trump and Russia for 10 , 1 minute, 58 secondsyears, but I think I’m less wrong and I think my questions are evolving and I hope yours are too. Um, you know, at first it’s like what the hell are all , 2 minutes, 6 secondsthese Russians doing all over the place and now it’s like how many child traffickers do we have running stuff here? And I think those are all valid , 2 minutes, 14 secondsquestions. I think this is what the internet really permits that corporate media doesn’t is us all talking to each , 2 minutes, 21 secondsother like this. This is what our overlords really don’t like is what’s going on right here. So, I appreciate , 2 minutes, 29 secondsyour question.
Uh it’s going to highlight things like places I’ve been wrong, but I’m an Intel professional. , 2 minutes, 34 secondsI’m about to head in my fourth decade of it because I’m dumb. Uh [snorts] I can’t figure out what else to do. And uh it’s going to be a lot of picking through how , 2 minutes, 42 secondsI used to think of things and how I think of things. I hope I think of things. And I hope you come along with with me on the uh on the journey because , 2 minutes, 51 secondsI think this is what democracy really is. , 2 minutes, 55 secondsYou know, especially when you have multiple countries that can use this internet to to affect and infect our , 3 minutes, 2 secondsdiscussions. This is the hard work of democracy.
We’re doing it right now. , 3 minutes, 8 secondsUh Neil asks Mueller, Robert Swan Muller III, who worked with Bill Bar in the 90s, GOJ, and later with James Comey. , 3 minutes, 17 secondsYeah, man. What a great what a great observation. Um these guys have at the highest levels, these dudes have known each other through many many phases. , 3 minutes, 28 secondsAnd [clears throat] if you worked in the DOJ in 1991 with William Bar when he was attorney , 3 minutes, 36 secondsgeneral for the first time doing things like shutting down the inquiry into inslaw and promise pro oh man probably , 3 minutes, 43 secondsshould do an entire episode on promise um which is another Epstein connected thing. , 3 minutes, 51 secondsum where apparently Epstein andor uh Robert Maxwell Den’s father excfiltrated a , 4 minutesdatabase from a pro um a program that was called promise promis the the prosecutors management information system the very first data , 4 minutes, 9 secondsever created for prosecutors um that unified our attacks counter intelligence and criminal prosecutions all in one , 4 minutes, 16 secondsspot and during the Reagan administration Ed me, the attorney general in ‘ 83, , 4 minutes, 24 secondsshut down the funding to the corporation that owned Promise.
They only had one customer. That customer was the US , 4 minutes, 32 secondsgovernment. So when they were cut off, they went bankrupt. And those assets needed to be transferred. Upon that transfer of the assets, Robert Maxwell sold the Promise database to the , 4 minutes, 40 secondsSoviets, to the Egyptians, to the Libyans, which is this is what the Epste stuff is really, really about. Who was the guy , 4 minutes, 49 secondsthat shut that down? uh who shut who sorry who shut down the inquiry that was started by President George Herbert , 4 minutes, 57 secondsWalker Bush and I think around 1990 who stepped in [laughter] and and shut down the inquiry into promise software and , 5 minutes, 5 secondsinto BCCI the bank commerce and chamber is it BCCI that which was a notorious , 5 minutes, 13 secondsdirty bank that that handled a lot of payments for the CIA overseas and who did the trades for BCCI at Bear Sterns reportedly Jeffrey Epstein.
, 5 minutes, 25 secondsSo Bill Barr came in in 199 just shut all that down like nope every there’s nothing to see here folks and walks away and bar doesn’t come back , 5 minutes, 33 secondsagain until during Trump in early 2019 shuts down the Mueller investigation or , 5 minutes, 41 secondsor or hamstrings it by saying nothing to see here. Then they arrest Jeffrey Epstein and Epstein’s dead. , 5 minutes, 50 secondsSo yeah, Mueller hooked with bar in the 90s [clears throat] and then later on with James Comey Comey of course took , 5 minutes, 56 secondsover for Mueller and Mueller who I believe yeah Mueller came , 6 minutes, 3 secondsin with Barack Obama. He came in in 2001 just prior to 911 and he he not only , 6 minutes, 12 secondsstayed the full 10 years to 2011 I believe um that Obama kept on him on an extra couple years and then Comey took over from him.
, 6 minutes, 23 secondsthese dudes at that high level. These guys have known each other from way back in the Cold War and we’ve forgotten , 6 minutes, 32 secondsbecause we were all, you know, teenage for, you know, in my early 50s. We’re teenagers back then. We were kids, , 6 minutes, 42 secondsyou know. I I was I was in short pants when when they they bankrupted the promised software people 83. , 6 minutes, 50 secondsYou know, [clears throat] I didn’t start my career for another 15 years because I was a kid. , 6 minutes, 56 secondsBut, you know, I’m this is like like the world’s most important bar trivia is like, do you remember the early players , 7 minutes, 4 secondsin the um in the Reagan administration attorney general’s office like from when you were six?
[laughter] , 7 minutes, 11 secondsBecause because [snorts] who who was in the Reagan DOJ that year? It’s like Rudy Giuliani, John Roberts, who is now the , 7 minutes, 19 secondschief justice of the Supreme Court. Um, , 7 minutes, 22 seconds[snorts] , 7 minutes, 22 secondsand who handled the Iran Contra stuff from the DOJ office of legal uh legal , 7 minutes, 28 secondscounsel, I think, to try and help the uh the White House not have to answer Congress’s questions about Iran Contra. , 7 minutes, 37 secondsThat uh that would be John Bolton, who is now facing a dozen espionage charges. , 7 minutes, 43 secondsAll of this goes back to the 1980s, the 70s. some of the stuff that’s that’s going on. You know, we’re dealing with , 7 minutes, 51 secondsthe Iranian the Iranian regime.
We’re finally getting rid of these these right? That that was all in the 70s. , 8 minutes, 1 secondYou you had you you you had we get rid of Nixon there for reasons that may be quite unhealthy, even though Nixon is , 8 minutes, 9 secondsvilified by history. So far, so far it’s too soon to tell. , 8 minutes, 15 secondsBut then you have the Carter administration, the end of the Carter administration. , 8 minutes, 20 secondsYou have guys who are the back channel with the Iranian regime saying, “Hey, wait for our boy to get in and let out , 8 minutes, 29 secondsour let out our hostages so he can take credit.” And that’s what happened. on January 20th, 1981, Reagan comes in, the , 8 minutes, 36 secondsthe hostages go out, and a few years later, Reagan’s people are doing dirty , 8 minutes, 43 secondsbusiness with uh with the Iran Contra folks.
, 8 minutes, 48 secondsSo, this is multiple decades. And you know what’s interesting about our current president of the United States , 8 minutes, 54 secondsis a guy who who married the daughter of a Czech intelligence asset um by the name of Ivana. , 9 minutes, 5 secondsUm this guy Donald Trump married this woman from the Czech Republic in the in the late 1970s. , 9 minutes, 11 secondsCame to prominence in the 1980s. started talk started talking about running for president as soon as the 80s and whose father had a substantial relationship , 9 minutes, 20 secondswith the US Navy and you know who like his father was well known to be quite acquainted with the Federal Bureau of , 9 minutes, 28 secondsInvestigation, the Department of Defense and others in the federal government.
Um a man whose uncle was in charge of going through Nicola Tesla’s intellectual , 9 minutes, 36 secondsproperty after he died to make sure it didn’t fall into foreign hands. this guy Donald Trump. , 9 minutes, 42 secondsUm, he’s one of the few individuals who was there personally from a a really , 9 minutes, 49 secondsinteresting prominent standpoint. Not always a very wellrespected one. I mean, he was on reality television for years, but he’s always been in an interesting , 9 minutes, 58 secondsspot for many decades in our biggest city. , 10 minutes, 2 secondsAnd he’s president of the United States now, and he has a long memory. , 10 minutes, 7 secondsWhat an interesting guy to have running the country.
And I think I think that’s why I tell everyone you need to keep an open mind here because there is stuff that none of this is resolved, right? , 10 minutes, 19 secondsWe’re talking about, you know, Russian intelligence uh, you know, operatives who are in multiple generations. They are , 10 minutes, 28 secondsoperatives for the USSR, for the Russian Federation because their parents were, because their grandparents were. I’ve had people attack me that I go and look , 10 minutes, 35 secondsthem up. They’re in the Venona. their grandfathers were in the Venona transcripts that were declassified , 10 minutes, 43 secondsum by the NSA that uh that they were picked up. Their grandparents were traitors of the Soviets and I pick up , 10 minutes, 52 secondstheir pipsquee grandchildren yelling at me about that I’m paranoid about the Russians decades later.
Nothing’s ever , 11 minutesover. It seems maybe we’re going to resolve some things. , 11 minutes, 5 seconds[laughter] , 11 minutes, 6 secondsWe are in the reunion tour era. Nobody want it. Okay. The reunion tour that everyone wants. Rush is touring this , 11 minutes, 14 secondsyear. I have some of my friends who are just now getting into Rush. I’m like, “Oh man, we should get tickets.” Absolutely. Go see Rush. Nerd Prague , 11 minutes, 22 secondsHeaven. Absolutely. That is the reunion tour I I I love. This is the re the Iran Contra reunion tour nobody wants. , 11 minutes, 31 secondsCorrect. , 11 minutes, 34 secondsWhy are only Republicans chosen as FBI directors? FBI directors are the head of the intelligence um service essentially , 11 minutes, 42 secondsthe only domestic one, FBI counter intelligence.
And to my to my knowledge, not only are intelligence professionals , 11 minutes, 50 secondsnonpartisan as a reflex, um it’s a good reflex. , 11 minutes, 57 secondsum because partisan politics is generally and almost always is a blind for really , 12 minutes, 5 secondswhat’s going on. Um I think historically Democrats had you know too too much , 12 minutes, 13 secondsfootsie that they played with Soviet types decades ago. So, the Republicans are always kind of the , 12 minutes, 21 secondsum you know, they they had the veneer of more seriousness about being anti-communist and all that. I think , 12 minutes, 28 secondsthat’s where that comes from politically. Um and I think in the last 10 years where we started , 12 minutes, 37 secondswhere we f we wanted national security to be something that was kind of anti-Republican.
And look, the , 12 minutes, 44 secondsRepublican party didn’t do anything to help themselves [laughter] with this regard. Please see Paul Maniffort. Paul Maniffort as campaign manager. Even if , 12 minutes, 53 secondsTrump is not invaded in that, the Republican party is. I mean, the NRA, which had gone completely one side, it’s a Republican entity for the most part. , 13 minutes, 1 secondThey were they had guys from the Soviet Union who were life members. You got Maria Boutina. They have, you know, Russian spies running around these , 13 minutes, 9 secondsthings. The Republicans did not help themselves very much with this stuff. , 13 minutes, 14 secondsUm, but I think we should have um, you know, I think these things should be nonpartisan.
, 13 minutes, 22 secondsI I have I, you know, I ran a campaign for the Democratic party in 2024 and they were not very nice about it. So, I , 13 minutes, 30 secondsI have never disliked political parties uh, more more than today and I I hope the FBI shares that with me. Um, , 13 minutes, 40 secondshello Jenny BCCI. So so so dirty ran contra yes this is the song my heart makes , 13 minutes, 47 seconds[laughter] , 13 minutes, 48 secondsand it’s it’s time to discuss all this crazy stuff. Another comment here what do you think of case management magnet forensic gray shift celebrate , 13 minutes, 57 secondsPeter Peter pumpkin eater I assume you mean Peter Teal. Um, Celebrite is of course Israeli spywear that I believe , 14 minutes, 6 secondsthe the um FBS gotten a hold of, though I know some private actors and uh private legal practice who have also been using Celbrite , 14 minutes, 14 secondsum for some collection um when they seize cell phones as part of a special master , 14 minutes, 23 secondsuh order from a judge.
Uh I have some questions about having software that’s that powerful in the hands of a [clears throat] private law firm. , 14 minutes, 31 secondsum by Peter Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater. , 14 minutes, 34 secondsI’m assuming you mean Peter Teal. It’s interesting. Palunteer just seems like a bad idea. So , 14 minutes, 41 secondsPalunteer’s uh software and um defense contracting work something , 14 minutes, 49 secondsseems very Davos WF um one world government kind of , 14 minutes, 58 secondsto [clears throat] it. I I gather it’s coming in for a lot of um scrutiny and with the fact that Peter Teal is now being tied , 15 minutes, 6 secondsto Jeffrey Epstein um in a uh in in a more substantive way. , 15 minutes, 13 secondsI think I think the idea of having uh you know defense contractors of very , 15 minutes, 22 secondsnegligible um provenence I guess would be a good way of putting it.
Peter Peter Teal is not an American citizen originally, , 15 minutes, 30 secondsright? He’s I if you ever looked up where the dude’s from, he’s from like his family immigrated to was it western , 15 minutes, 38 secondsSouth Africa, which is now Namibia, Windhoke area, where the like the high school is located on Himmler Street, but it’s not from Hitler’s Himmler. It’s , 15 minutes, 46 secondsfrom Himmler’s dad. I mean, there may be some Nazi stuff here, folks. I don’t know. Should we have Nazis or Nazi , 15 minutes, 55 secondsdescendants running our defense contracting? , 15 minutes, 58 secondsI have questions. Uh, the stock is starting to show this. So, I think we’re going to I think the world is about to get into some more questions about , 16 minutes, 5 secondsPalunteer.
So, yes, I call [laughter] so I don’t get deplatformed. , 16 minutes, 15 secondsYeah, I looked up um I looked up where where where Teal’s from there in in South Africa and um his family’s also , 16 minutes, 23 secondsfrom Prussia, the the part of Prussia that’s so far east. I think it’s Kinenrad now. It’s part of Russia. So , 16 minutes, 32 secondsthere you get into what is the relationship between the the Germans and and and the Russians particularly on that. Let us not forget , 16 minutes, 41 secondsthat Katherina, the Empress Katherine, she was, you know, originally a German who became more Russian than Russian. , 16 minutes, 51 secondsBut the relationship between the the Russians and the and the Germans has been very complicated.
you got the Third Reich, you know, I believe the Velmach , 17 minutes, 1 secondwas were practicing their tank maneuvers uh in mother Russia, you know, when the Mal Molotov Ribbon Truck Pact was still , 17 minutes, 9 secondsgoing on. And it wasn’t until Hitler really lost his mind and started attacking Russia that the Russians entered on , 17 minutes, 17 secondsuh you know, against them on the Eastern front. seemed like they had another plan in mind there talking about things that , 17 minutes, 24 secondsare never done. We haven’t discussed enough. Um, you know, it’s one thing to think that the Iraq war intelligence we , 17 minutes, 32 secondswere lied to. That’s pretty clear, right? It’s another to say that Vietnam was a screw job.
I think everyone agrees , 17 minutes, 40 secondsthat. Is everybody ready for World War II was a setup? How about World War I was a setup? , 17 minutes, 48 secondsum where our global elites decided that we should all just, you know, blow each other up, blow up our capitals, kill all , 17 minutes, 55 secondsour 20-year-old men, and um maybe that was, you know, a bigger conspiracy. There’s , 18 minutes, 3 secondsonly so much of this you can handle day over day. Um but, uh, you know, we there’s not a lot of discussion of of Germany right now. , 18 minutes, 12 secondsWe’re discussing the the the British royalty quite a bit. , 18 minutes, 16 secondsHanging out as some of them are with notorious child trafficking organizers.
, 18 minutes, 22 secondsIt’s pretty ugly. And the banking that goes along with it, it’s pretty ugly. , 18 minutes, 26 secondsBut man, you’re not hearing much from Germany, which is such a powerful country, right? When those guys go to , 18 minutes, 33 secondswar, they go to war against the entire world. And it’s not that close, , 18 minutes, 38 seconds[laughter] , 18 minutes, 38 secondsyou know? It’s not as close a fight as you hope. And yet we’re not talking about Germany too much right now. I don’t know. There’s more to it. , 18 minutes, 48 secondsUm I want to bounce off your comment here. Yeah, Palanteer sounds like Promise 2.0. Uh yeah, Promise was , 18 minutes, 56 secondsfocused around um uh was focused around government activities, tax investigations, , 19 minutes, 6 secondsum criminal stuff and counter intelligence, which when you think about how these things work together, if you , 19 minutes, 13 secondshave the mafia, you’re going to have things that like set off the tax man’s alarms first , 19 minutes, 21 secondsum or eventually, you know, In [clears throat] 1970, we passed the the Racketeer Influence Corrupt Organizations Act, RICO, to allow , 19 minutes, 29 secondsprosecutors the ability to investigate complicated crimes because the mafia was getting very very um sophisticated.
And they had a number of corporate entities. , 19 minutes, 40 secondsThey would have different people would own different things that were critical to the business. Um drug trafficking, , 19 minutes, 47 secondsarms trafficking, whatever. You had one guy run a pizza shop, you’d have another guy run the warehouses, another guy run the trucks, and they didn’t know each other necessarily, but they were all , 19 minutes, 56 secondsreally working as part of the same criminal enterprise. So that’s why you had RICO, right? Now, where wherever you , 20 minutes, 3 secondshave ill gotten gains, you have money laundering, and you have tax evasion almost always. Now, you add some USSR, some other countries in there, you get , 20 minutes, 12 secondsspies that embed themselves in there.
So the government when they were really trying to deal with the the intersection , 20 minutes, 21 secondsbetween very complicated, very powerful organized crime and the USSR and Israeli intelligence and others they needed , 20 minutes, 30 secondssophisticated methods to deal with that and that’s what promise was an attempt at. So the 1970s we invent this thing , 20 minutes, 38 secondscalled the database and you have this one database that these these agencies the US Treasury and , 20 minutes, 46 secondsthe FBI and probably to some degree the Pentagon and the CIA contributed to to share information. It’s very dangerous when you share information because , 20 minutes, 53 secondssomebody might get it.
Um you know that was as soon as we had that snapshot from promise you know of course , 21 minutes, 3 secondsevery country on earth wanted it. It’s incredibly powerful. You get to see all the covert operations against the United States in one place. Oh my god. No , 21 minutes, 11 secondswonder it got sabotaged, right? So, Palunteer promises to be that. Only it’s , 21 minutes, 19 secondsnot like you if you really had a promise 2.0. You’d be able to kick the crap out of any of these spy operations. They’re not that complicated. , 21 minutes, 28 secondsNot once you get these relational database things going, which I guess makes makes sense why the bad guys of the world would want to would want to , 21 minutes, 36 secondsown Facebook, would want to own Oracle, own IBM, because if you really put all that software together, God give it to me.
I know what to do with the database. , 21 minutes, 49 secondsBut um we shall see. , 21 minutes, 54 secondsOh, what a great question. How does being sanctioned by Russia impact you? , 21 minutes, 58 secondsIs it more of a hey we see you and are watching you type of thing or does it impact you in other ways? Well, it has not affected I’m technically I’m not allowed to ever go to Russia and no , 22 minutes, 6 secondsRussian citizen is allowed to do any business way. So technically it could impact my ability to take a vacation. So , 22 minutes, 15 secondsif I was going to go to Vermont this time of year um then that would interrupt that that trip. or you know if I want to go to , 22 minutes, 23 secondsArcangelsk in the summer for the canoe festival or whatever I guess that would uh disappoint me but um I you know I , 22 minutes, 32 secondsdon’t and I have to tell you that the the majority of um Russian citizens , 22 minutes, 40 secondsleave me alone with some with some notable exceptions who are very nice people who tend not to like Putin too much.
Um I have had to tell a couple , 22 minutes, 48 secondspeople who were attempting to illicit me or whatnot. I just kind of when I got what they were up to and I , 22 minutes, 56 secondsrealized they were Russian, I’m like, “Just so you know, Putin has me sanctioned. Shut the conversation down pretty quick.” Um, but other than that, , 23 minutes, 3 secondsit was it was lovely in 2022 when the Russians officially sanctioned me because I knew I pissed them off. But this is this was a I kind of saw it as a , 23 minutes, 12 secondsa high score. Even took it as kind of friendly that they’re like, “Good game.” , 23 minutes, 18 seconds[laughter] , 23 minutes, 18 secondsYou know, also to think that my my personality is repellent enough that I anger an entire country, a world power.
, 23 minutes, 27 secondsYou know, there’s [laughter] there’s there’s something nice about it. You know, you know, I I am an enemy of Vladimir , 23 minutes, 35 secondsPutin and the feeling is mutual. So, hey, there we go. , 23 minutes, 41 secondsWhat’s going on with the World War II expense book of families who funded the war? many of the same names now. , 23 minutes, 48 secondsCorrect. Okay. So, let’s talk about this. Over in the United Kingdom, you got Peter Mandlesson, right? , 23 minutes, 56 secondsWho was Lord Mandlesson? He was ambassador of the United States. Even though the spooks told Kier Starmer, not him, man. He’s friends with Jeffrey , 24 minutes, 3 secondsEpstein. Starmer appoints him anyhow.
I expect I expect Kier Starmer is going to be out as UK prime minister tomorrow or the next day. Probably first thing tomorrow if I had to guess. , 24 minutes, 14 secondsUm, so Mandlesson was um was one of Epstein’s close confidants, , 24 minutes, 22 secondsconstantly asking him for things, very solicitous relationship, very gross. So he was renting his apartment or his house or flat or whatever. , 24 minutes, 32 secondsAnd Mandlesson was renting his place from the Rothschilds. , 24 minutes, 37 secondsNow, I don’t know if you know any like bonafide conspiracy theorists uh who sound like the father and so I married , 24 minutes, 43 secondsan ax murderer, the penta, the the queen, the pope, the Gettys, the Rothschilds.
, 24 minutes, 50 secondsUm we’re now going at the Rothschilds. , 24 minutes, 53 secondsSo when you ask like who was really behind World War II and who financed that? , 25 minutesAnd I think uh you know we’re now we have the audacity to to uh execute , 25 minutes, 7 secondssearch warrants at homes owned by some of those last names. , 25 minutes, 14 secondsThat’s big. We’ve ne we haven’t done that in 100 years. I in a lot of ways I think Trump is a is aiming to be Teddy , 25 minutes, 22 secondsRoosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt was the last guy who didn’t have any fear about facing down some of these famous names. , 25 minutes, 29 secondsHe’s like, “Whatever. I’m rich, too. I’m richer than you anyhow, so who cares?
, 25 minutes, 34 secondsI’ll break you in half. I have the army.” You know, he did he did one four-year term. Boom. [clears throat] Did all this , 25 minutes, 41 secondsstuff in the United States. Did not fear our robber barons. Passed the Food and Drug Act. Named all these things National Parks. Really established , 25 minutes, 49 secondsAmerica as a world power. So, are we going to start dismantling some of that system? , 25 minutes, 59 secondsMaybe maybe we’ve already begun. Maybe it’s overdue. It’s pretty crazy. , 26 minutes, 12 secondsSarah Jeff says, “I worked as a CNA for over 22 years. Never has a mouth been closed after someone passes. Even with towels rolled under the chin doesn’t , 26 minutes, 20 secondsclose.
Did you see dead eyes should be a jar?” Um I saw some photos there and I , 26 minutes, 28 secondsdidn’t make any analysis that is not um my branch of analysis. , 26 minutes, 35 seconds[clears throat] , 26 minutes, 36 secondsI guess there is something uh is circulating from the Epstein files about how the date uh the um , 26 minutes, 45 secondsuh there’s a press release that is marked the day before he died from Jeffrey Burman’s office, the US , 26 minutes, 53 secondsattorney’s office in Southern District of New York saying that he had died. But that could be that could be a typo. , 27 minutes, 1 secondYou got to be very careful. I saw the pictures. Um, I was very I was very careful. I was like, “Huh?” And now I , 27 minutes, 10 secondsdon’t know how to look at a dead body, so I wasn’t able to see the inconsistencies that you apparently saw.
, 27 minutes, 16 secondsWould anything surprise me at this point? Not really. This dude was This dude was important for like , 27 minutes, 24 secondsevery important person on on Earth. Damn near. So, um , 27 minutes, 35 secondswould faking would would him faking his death um you know be above anybody involved? , 27 minutes, 42 secondsNah. , 27 minutes, 44 secondsDo I think he’s living in in Israel or in Moscow? I don’t know. , 27 minutes, 50 secondsWouldn’t surprise me. I mean, he was really important and Bill Barr is the coverup guy, you know, but that’s all speculation. I , 27 minutes, 58 secondsdon’t have any intelligence that would say anything about it, but I mean, you know, you know, they they had a room with the , 28 minutes, 7 secondsguy who uh who was, I think, a cocaine dealer for the Gambinos or one of them, and had some debts still, and then the , 28 minutes, 16 secondscameras went out and the the security guards were were absent, and they already took a plea deal.
I mean, it’s all weird, , 28 minutes, 24 secondsright? So, Avocado Toast 2011 asks, “What is the , 28 minutes, 32 secondsdomino effect of the Epstein files release have on government, business, and intelligence worlds? Inestimable, , 28 minutes, 39 secondshard to measure.” I think I think we are I think we are now doing the real stuff. , 28 minutes, 45 secondsYou know, um 10 years ago, eight years ago, I was looking at the we’re going to get this Trump, but Trump was never really our problem, guys. , 28 minutes, 54 secondsNow, the the mechanisms that put Trump into office in the really weird way that they did, those were problematic. Still , 29 minutes, 1 secondare. That’s what we’re going at here is is the Rothschilds setting up the child traffickers to be the ambassadors to places.
, 29 minutes, 11 secondsThat’s the real thing. And um you know there are transnational child trafficking networks and abuse , 29 minutes, 21 secondsnetworks and there are people who are doing unlicensed experimentation on human beings for science uh that do not want good things for any of us. There’s , 29 minutes, 30 secondssome really bad stuff out there people and we’re we’re learning what it is. So the the domino effect here is basically , 29 minutes, 38 secondsthe thing about crimes against children when you think about it from an intelligence perspective or an offensive , 29 minutes, 45 secondsintelligence operation perspective, blackmail, black ops if you will, is that crimes against children are , 29 minutes, 53 secondsillegal in all countries.
Um prostitution is legal. , 29 minutes, 58 secondsWearing a head in a public building is not but but prostitution is. Um there are countries where drug drug use is , 30 minutes, 6 secondsheavily decriminalized in other places where it’s a death sentence. Um you know our approach to drunk driving is , 30 minutes, 13 secondsdifferent in Kazakhstan as it is um Sweden as it is the US or Canada. But , 30 minutes, 19 secondscrimes against children are are heinous in every single country. So if you want to control people doing it through a , 30 minutes, 27 secondsnetwork that systematically abuses children, you’re locking somebody into taking orders from your network of , 30 minutes, 34 secondspeople.
So that’s why the the Epstein story and his network’s story is so very important because it isn’t just about , 30 minutes, 42 secondsthe abuse that was done to children. It was about all the coordination of decisions that happened underneath that. , 30 minutes, 50 secondsSo [snorts] we don’t know how big this network is. But I think we’re about to find out. , 30 minutes, 57 secondsSo, it’s a great question. , 31 minutes, 4 secondsHow would we a country go about bringing back legitimate news in the United States? I don’t know. Is it something that can be brought back? Um, I’m not , 31 minutes, 12 secondscertain that um it’s something we’ve ever had. I mean, Walter Kankite popped up in the Epstein files.
That was a that , 31 minutes, 20 secondswas a rough photo to see. Um but I don’t know. I think I think we have to , 31 minutes, 28 secondsestablish uh what we want from news. You know, I think I think this is part of education , 31 minutes, 36 secondsin some ways. Um you know, what is a fact versus an opinion? And what do we want out of out of people? I I I think , 31 minutes, 45 secondsthe the idea of there being a branded NBC, The Atlantic, um Washington Post, I think these news brands where we have a , 31 minutes, 54 secondsfew thousand people who are supposedly telling us the official story. You know, I started this episode talking about how this Tulsa Gabbard whistleblower story , 32 minutes, 3 secondsis being handled atrociously.
Just awful. I mean, nobody there aren’t proofreading. There’s no , 32 minutes, 10 secondseditor in there who’s saying you’re going to use the same set of terms in each paragraph. You’re not going to say intelligence member or member of , 32 minutes, 18 secondsintelligence or no, you’re you’re going to say intelligence officer, you’re going to say agent, you’re going to say asset, you’re there’s nobody doing that. , 32 minutes, 28 secondsAnd that is something that you know I think we need to ask from , 32 minutes, 36 secondswhatever we call news. Also it you know having people who either write the news or who give opinions on things. , 32 minutes, 44 secondsWe ought to have an established standard of what somebody is as an expert.
, 32 minutes, 50 secondsUm, you know, I was reading some some young man’s opinion in the Hill newspaper. , 32 minutes, 58 secondsSome there was some opinion about Trump. , 33 minutesThis is a guy in his early 20s who I think was overseas somewhere. In any event, this somebody this is a person , 33 minutes, 8 secondsthat had some criticism of our government who didn’t have any expertise whatsoever. His opinion was basically valueless. , 33 minutes, 17 secondsAnd I I don’t think that you need necessarily a a certain resume before your opinions , 33 minutes, 24 secondsare worthwhile. But before they are elevated for the rest of us to take seriously as if you are you have some , 33 minutes, 32 secondsgravitas, I don’t know.
Um I think of what happened during the Trump Russia years. I want to look at what happened on MSNBC. , 33 minutes, 42 secondsYou had individuals who were raised up who purported to be um experts in , 33 minutes, 48 secondsnational security who just weren’t. They had some passing contact with the FBI or had maybe been in in the military, but , 33 minutes, 57 secondsthey were not experts in intelligence nor in all all these freshly minted authoritarianism experts , 34 minutes, 4 secondsum or oh even worse disinformation experts. um disinformation is a is an art that was invented by the Russian , 34 minutes, 11 secondsintelligence services primarily and these people were talking about disinformation without talking about the , 34 minutes, 18 secondshistory of Russian intelligence which even I don’t purport to by the way I know a lot about it because of history , 34 minutes, 25 secondsin intelligence where we did things that were of the information operation variety but I’m not an expert in Russian intelligence operations nor different , 34 minutes, 34 secondsdisinformation because the people that are really experts in that can’t talk about For the most part, they’re busy doing it.
They’re at the Pentagon. , 34 minutes, 40 secondsThey’re at the CIA. Um, I’m not that, you know, I may be the closest you can get to somebody who will talk to you , 34 minutes, 46 secondsabout it. Um, but, you know, expertise is a real thing. So, you know, first of all, I think, you know, to get back to , 34 minutes, 55 secondslegitimate news, you know, we have to not want to be lied to. And by the way, you know, for those of us who get emotional about a certain thing, there’s , 35 minutes, 3 secondsa lot of people who don’t want to talk about ICE in a very useful way right now because they see what they’re told in in the various channels they prefer and , 35 minutes, 12 secondsthey go, well, we shouldn’t be enforcing, you know, we should abolish this agency , 35 minutes, 19 secondsthat does this thing that we absolutely need.
And it’s just hard, you know, how do we how do we have a difficult conversation when we don’t really want to know? , 35 minutes, 29 secondsum about certain things. There’s a lot of people who don’t want to hear that. , 35 minutes, 32 secondsMaybe Donald Trump’s story is a little more complicated than all that or whatever. So, we we have to decide how , 35 minutes, 39 secondswe want to interact with our democracy here because I I you know, I would love to turn I I’m constantly looking for , 35 minutes, 47 secondsgood news for good news source around the world, multiple languages. It’s hard. So, it’s a great question. Very , 35 minutes, 54 secondsthoughtprovoking. Jojo, I I don’t I don’t have an answer, but I have some thoughts.
, 36 minutes, 9 secondsEric, why do Russian mafia get so comfortable in American social space and brag that they are businessmen with money for organized crime? [laughter] , 36 minutes, 16 secondsMan, you know, there’s something about having several several hundred million dollars of uh of um unknown providence , 36 minutes, 25 secondsthat uh makes you welcome in a lot of places. You know, there’s a lot of people who will take investment in their business and they don’t really care from whom. So the Russian mafia used that to , 36 minutes, 34 secondsput their cash uh that they got from drugs, arms, prostitution, slave labor, you know, they put that into our tech , 36 minutes, 43 secondssector because we weren’t, you know, because Sephus and uh the US and intelligence community wasn’t being , 36 minutes, 50 secondsstrong enough about that.
Um also there’s a lot of people in who are Russian businessmen when we were trying , 36 minutes, 57 secondsto privatize Russia which be a process which which began with Larry Summers and , 37 minutes, 3 seconds[clears throat] , 37 minutes, 4 secondsuh Bill Clinton and those folks that turned into the Russian mafia because of course the Russians melted down their spy services their organized crime state and random ever dealt with. , 37 minutes, 17 secondsSo, and we still are trying to figure out how to deal with it. I think we’ve [clears throat] I think we’ve woken up quite a bit. , 37 minutes, 29 secondsSab always got to take a comment here. , 37 minutes, 31 secondsKey observation, we need to not want to be lied to.
There are lots of people who want to believe their own version of reality because it is hard to face the truth. This is getting very Buddhist, , 37 minutes, 39 secondsright? um you know to like speaking as somebody who who digs , 37 minutes, 48 secondsinto uncomfortable truths all the time uh including close to home um you know there’s people like tell us , 37 minutes, 56 secondsthe truth tell us everything I can tell you that um uh learning a lot about how the world , 38 minutes, 6 secondsreally works um you know we talk about when people start bing their first briefings about how things are actually working. We call it team cry or team , 38 minutes, 14 secondspuke. Most people upon really being read in on information about the function of the world and the dangers out there uh will either burst into tears or vomit.
, 38 minutes, 25 secondsUm that is a common reaction of most people getting their first real um president’s daily brief. The presidents , 38 minutes, 32 secondsthemselves is my understanding. Um I was a team cry guy. Um I almost , 38 minutes, 38 secondsdoubled in 2018. Um lot I think I think most people vomit. Um , 38 minutes, 46 secondsthere [clears throat] is a lot of stuff that you know people oh they want to know the whole the whole truth. Well , 38 minutes, 52 secondswhen you get into like organ trafficking which this administration is doing an admirable job trying to shut down those , 38 minutes, 59 secondsnetworks. you know, when when you get into some of the stories around what creates , 39 minutes, 8 secondsuh a um a pipeline of healthy organs like you know fentanyl uh people don’t , 39 minutes, 16 secondsunderstand when you have these young men who die suddenly in prisons from a fentanyl overdose which is how did fennel get into the jail to begin with?
, 39 minutes, 25 secondsWhen you have a 21-year-old who suddenly dies and the family gets the body back and all the all the organs are missing , 39 minutes, 33 secondsand there’s no documentation and only the cameras went out, you get into some dark stuff there quick, don’t you? , 39 minutes, 38 secondsBecause that fentanyl will kill somebody without causing major organ damage to things like the liver, pancreas, , 39 minutes, 45 secondskidneys, heart, and just turn the lights out, right? , 39 minutes, 50 secondsAnd you get into the the network of hospitals and donor groups and medical transport, you know, that are robbing , 39 minutes, 59 secondshealthy young men of their entire lives and then selling these guys for parts.
Pretty dark, isn’t , 40 minutes, 6 secondsit? Um, it’s that and worse. So, how many people want to know about that? You know, I’ve , 40 minutes, 14 secondsI’ve looked into child trafficking. I I’ve interviewed victims. , 40 minutes, 18 secondsyou really want to know about it. Ain’t that fun? , 40 minutes, 22 secondsYou know, so yeah, if we want to be grown-ups here, there’s a lot of truth to face. You want the news to reflect that truth. , 40 minutes, 30 secondsOkay. Do you I mean, I think we need to. , 40 minutes, 33 secondsI think the band-aid needs to come off here. And I think that’s what this Epstein moment really, you know, really gets into. , 40 minutes, 41 secondsBut, uh, there’s going to be a lot of growing up for everybody here.
, 40 minutes, 50 secondsWhat’s the deal with rumors on satanic rituals? Like I get worried that YouTube’s Qanoning the left. Well, um, , 40 minutes, 58 secondsyou know, there are some people who I think codify their mutual social ties by doing things in a , 41 minutes, 7 secondsritualistic manner. I’ve heard of people abusing children in such a such a way and their commitment to nihilism is so , 41 minutes, 15 secondsgreat that they um do something they do things to other human beings that uh may closely , 41 minutes, 23 secondsresemble satanic ritual or how we’ve seen it depicted in in the past. And maybe there’s a feedback loop here. We see , 41 minutes, 31 secondssomething we see images of guys in cloaks.
Maybe somebody does that. I don’t know the psychology exactly behind it, but , 41 minutes, 38 secondsum you know I think uh well I’ve heard stories about elites taking kids out on , 41 minutes, 46 secondsboats and not all the kids come back you know and once they’re mutually implicated in each other’s crimes that’s , 41 minutes, 54 secondshow they that’s how they know that they’ve got a partner in all this and it’s fairly satanic. Now, if you talk , 42 minutes, 1 secondabout that aspect of that way too much, people are going to make accusations that you’re hysterical. It’s one of the reasons that uh when you bring things , 42 minutes, 10 secondslike this up, I try and talk low and slow. Um, but I think that’s why it’s it’s cast as satanic.
, 42 minutes, 22 secondsOh, and supposedly Peter Jill has blood cancer, does weird blood things. I have heard stories of of um some of the , 42 minutes, 30 secondswealthy um you know getting blood transfusions from younger people kind of a boutique , 42 minutes, 40 secondsconcierge very weird sounding medical practice. , 42 minutes, 45 secondsUm, I don’t know if that has any, you know, [sighs] , 42 minutes, 50 secondsuh, any real effect, but you know, it it it’s not a , 42 minutes, 59 secondsit’s not a very savory sounding practice. It’s the kind of thing that would have political implications. , 43 minutes, 6 secondsIn so in conclusion, I want to wrap up and and and talk a bit about about Steve Bannon , 43 minutes, 14 secondshere because we are and thankfully I’m not going to put up a picture of him here, but um one of the guys who I I , 43 minutes, 23 secondsthink is is most important that we’re going to need to discuss is this guy Bannon.
, 43 minutes, 31 secondsand is still around and he was in the Trump administration. , 43 minutes, 36 secondsHe was the last campaign chairman before Trump won and he was deep in with Jeffrey Epstein. , 43 minutes, 44 secondsSo that means Trump’s first presidency was heavily um impacted by Steve Bannon , 43 minutes, 51 secondsand he [clears throat] you know Trump got rid of him in 2018 following the book by , 44 minutesMike Wolf Fire and Fury and Bannon immediately made common cause with Epstein again apparently shot , 44 minutes, 8 secondsfootage to rehabilitate Epstein’s reputation and they were both conspiring how to get , 44 minutes, 16 secondsJared Kushner out of the way, which is very, very interesting.
, 44 minutes, 20 secondsAnd so, you know, I wanted to talk a little bit about his history. So, you know how long , 44 minutes, 26 secondsthis guy has been out there. So, our our tale with Bannon starts back in 1977 or , 44 minutes, 33 secondsso. He served as a naval officer. I believe he was uh he was stationed on a uh he deployed on the destroyer in the , 44 minutes, 41 secondsPacific and uh eventually got a masters in national security studies from Georgetown, MBA from Harvard Business , 44 minutes, 50 secondsSchool and [clears throat] worked um worked at the Pentagon doing some , 44 minutes, 56 secondsmore policy type work. And then the 80s he joins Goldman Sachs where he focused on mergers and acquisitions.
, 45 minutes, 6 secondsUm particularly working on media and entertainment deals. , 45 minutes, 13 secondsHe got in with the Hollywood folks particularly negotiated a deal involving Seinfeld syndication , 45 minutes, 20 secondsprofits and that is where he received his first uh , 45 minutes, 27 secondsyou know enduring revenue stream by the and Seinfeld’s really important because I believe it was the biggest TV , 45 minutes, 36 secondssyndication deal in history all syndicated all over the world who created these flows of capital and he got a chunk of So created massive wealth out of that show. , 45 minutes, 46 secondsUm after that he he got involved [clears throat] with the online gaming world.
I believe World of Warcraft in particular. , 45 minutes, 57 secondsAnd this is where he started working with the Chinese regime on I think there was some slave labor implications for , 46 minutes, 5 secondshelping mine gold in in Warcraft. But also when you think everybody, you know, hooks up into these guilds and they have , 46 minutes, 14 secondsan online footprint and some of them are using headphones to talk to each other, they were able to profile a lot of young , 46 minutes, 20 secondsmen and sort of get them from these video game platforms on to political discussion groups. , 46 minutes, 29 secondsAnd we we’ve seen in the files that Epstein was involved with 4chan, which of course was Bannon’s provenence as , 46 minutes, 37 secondswell.
So you get now the the genesis of the alt-right of people massaging these , 46 minutes, 44 secondsmen who are profiled, you know, then from Facebook, Instagram, , 46 minutes, 50 secondsthen Xbox Live and other um Discord groups, Reddit, everybody leaves a , 46 minutes, 57 secondsfootprint, right? And so they start profiling young people. Um, you know, , 47 minutes, 5 secondsthis may have some ties to our our guys who started shooting up schools and and uh movie theaters and whatnot, but that , 47 minutes, 13 secondsthat was that was Bannon was working on the cutting edge of that field and he was doing so in proximity to the Chinese. , 47 minutes, 22 secondsSkip ahead to the Breitbart years uh where you have a digital online , 47 minutes, 29 secondsfootprint that was started with Benjamin Netanyahu.
, 47 minutes, 35 secondsUm ironic since, you know, he was accused of uh being an anti-semite or being a white nationalist. interesting , 47 minutes, 42 secondsto have the prime minister of Israel help start this , 47 minutes, 48 secondsthis this digital uh site of breitbart.com. Of course, you had Andrew Breitbart who died not long after. , 47 minutes, 56 secondsUm and you fast forward that to the Cambridge Analytica days of you have the Mercer Mercers are funding Steve Bannon , 48 minutes, 6 secondsCambridge Analytica to profile us all his voters through our social media platforms and then that gets us to 2016 , 48 minutes, 13 secondsto 2018 um where he is working for Trump and then working with Jeffrey Epstein.
, 48 minutes, 21 secondsUm, and [clears throat] conservatives are still going on Epste Bannon’s platforms. , 48 minutes, 31 secondsNow that Epstein and Bannon are tied so very closely, it will be very interesting to see , 48 minutes, 38 secondsum, what else is going on there and whether or not the the GOP will still appear on Epstein or I keep that’s , 48 minutes, 47 secondsFreudian by the way on Epstein’s programs. Um well on B’s channel which is basically Epstein’s network. We’ll see if that’s going to keep happening. , 48 minutes, 59 secondsUm and um I I can tell you from some personal experience, Bannon has , 49 minutes, 7 secondsuh intelligence operatives on the ground who are doing covert operations [snorts] that are very Russian in character , 49 minutes, 16 secondsand I should imagine quite illegal.
So, it seems like this might be the end of days for Steve Bannon. We shall see. I think he has a lot to answer for. , 49 minutes, 28 secondsYeah, Steve Bannon, the Navy in Southern California during the late late 70s, early 80s. A red flag by itself. Heavy , 49 minutes, 36 secondsheavy Soviet influence. [clears throat] um a lot of Chinese corruption there too of our that’s the that’s the naval installations that are that are are , 49 minutes, 45 secondspointed at at China of course so anyone corrupting them would have a a pretty , 49 minutes, 51 secondsgood time we got some more details Den Brock , 49 minutes, 58 secondsCollins Reactor Shley IG internet gaming entertainment and gold farming in China yeah it’s all there , 50 minutes, 6 secondsSo, um, this Bannon guy has, uh, has not been reformed any.
, 50 minutes, 15 secondsUm, [clears throat] you know, he seems to be talking about being a political influence in actions to come. And it’s very interesting. He’s very clearly part , 50 minutes, 24 secondsof the child trafficking network and he’s been very close to the GOP. Trump put a tweet out about how he was badly mis mistreated by the Biden folks and now he’s bigger than ever. , 50 minutes, 36 secondsJust because Trump says something about you, whether it’s mean or not mean, I don’t take it at face value. I I think Bannon is bigger than ever now that he’s , 50 minutes, 43 secondsin the Epstein files, but I don’t think that’s a good thing. , 50 minutes, 47 secondsUm, one final question on this.
Do Bannon and Leonard Leo have interactions or connections to each other? I have never , 50 minutes, 54 secondsseen it said specifically, but I I will tell you, um, Trump tweeted out about Leonard Leo , 51 minutes, 1 secondowning the courts, how that was a bad thing this week. , 51 minutes, 5 secondsAnd um you know that’ll be very interesting if Trump is going to attack , 51 minutes, 12 secondsthe Federalist Society judges and you know who who I think collectively may , 51 minutes, 19 secondsnot have been doing very good things for America and and remember where they started trying to lock up the judiciary that 25 years ago in the state of , 51 minutes, 28 secondsMissouri they started locking up the courts starting in Missouri and oddly enough I think a revolution in that is , 51 minutes, 36 secondscoming from some of our elected officials from Missouri just recently, but nevertheless, um, now, how much does that have to do with Bannon?
I’m not , 51 minutes, 44 secondssure. I know Bannon had a lot of operations in St. Louis. , 51 minutes, 49 secondsHe flew in from time to time. He was he was charged in a thing involving, I think, um, medical supplements around , 51 minutes, 58 secondsCOVID. Uh, I think the SEC went after him. I don’t think much came of it. Uh, but he’s got a a hook in Missouri as , 52 minutes, 5 secondswell. So, does Bannon and Leonard Leo have connections to each other? I’m not not certain. I think they’re ideological , 52 minutes, 12 secondsbrothers. Um, trying to take over the United States on behalf of foreign powers. That’s my opinion. , 52 minutes, 19 secondsSo, lots going on here. Thank everyone for for their questions.
We’re going to do this more often. Um, like I said, I , 52 minutes, 26 secondsfeel like I’m back in the zone here. Um, let me know on Twitter or anywhere else in the comments here on YouTube as well. , 52 minutes, 33 secondsUm, is Missouri is Missouri like the realm of transnational crime? Yes, it is. Um, if , 52 minutes, 43 secondsthere’s anybody you’d like me to interview, no matter who, let me know. , 52 minutes, 47 secondsIf there’s any more topics you want me to cover, let me know. So, thank you uh for this time together. I appreciate you very much and we’ll talk soon. Bye.
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